Nationals even mess up waiver claims

thethe said:
Goodwin K's a lot and doesn't have a lot of power. He isn't exactly young for his league. He is overhyped for his start in Rome when he was drafted. Not a bad prospect at all but if you are claiming him to be one of your best you are in trouble.

Cole/Gioloto are their best prospects and pitching is not an issue already for the Nats. Haren hurt them early in the year but lately he has been a stud. Nats need hitters and they have next to nothingo n the farm in terms of hitting.
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Goodwin has a .164 iso slugging for a center fielder (career; .142 this year) and is 22 years old in AA. Certainly K's a lot, but is a 5 tool center fielder.

They certainly need some hitting, but the only spots that aren't taken long term are 1B and CF. THe other players in place should be long term Ramos, Rendon, Desmond, Zimerman, Harper, Werth

Internal options for 1B-3B/CF are Goodwin, Skole, Souza
 
Temo said:
Their bullpen is 22nd in the majors this year in ERA and WAR. However bullpens are fairly easy to fix. Starting pitching is 12th.

Position players are 23rd, but that's mostly because Lombardozzi, Tracy, Espinosa, and Bernadina were all hitting like pitchers while filling in for various players. Tough to win when you have 4 position players who are literally batting like they're pitchers.
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Haven't the Braves had to overcome the same problem plus 6 season ending injuries to important or contributing players? Just saying...
 
How is this "messing up"? Teams block all the time....people are really reaching....
 
thethe said:
Goodwin K's a lot and doesn't have a lot of power. He isn't exactly young for his league. He is overhyped for his start in Rome when he was drafted. Not a bad prospect at all but if you are claiming him to be one of your best you are in trouble.

Cole/Gioloto are their best prospects and pitching is not an issue already for the Nats. Haren hurt them early in the year but lately he has been a stud. Nats need hitters and they have next to nothingo n the farm in terms of hitting.
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I'm not for trading pitching willy-nilly, but if the Nats have pitching depth, they can always flip that for help elsewhere.

I'm not as big a Roy Clark guy as a lot of others are, but with the Nats' wallet and a good set of area scouts, I'm relatively sure he'll improve the minor league situation.
 
gilesfan said:
Yeah, when you have money, you can afford to do that, unfortunately.
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They have ~$115MM already committed to next year's team -- need to upgrade their starting rotation (sans Haren, sans Detwiler?) and their bench. Let's just say that puts them at $125-130MM (kindly) next season. Deep within the Top 10 in baseball. Must be nice?
 
Hawk said:
They have ~$115MM already committed to next year's team -- need to upgrade their starting rotation (sans Haren, sans Detwiler?) and their bench. Let's just say that puts them at $125-130MM (kindly) next season. Deep within the Top 10 in baseball. Must be nice?
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They have 83 million committed to next year. With raises due for Strasburg, Ramos, Desmond, Zimmermann, Clippard, Storen, Detwiler; you are correct that may get up to 115ish.

Detwiler has back issue, guessing he will be back. 5th starter will likely be between Roark, Cole, Jordan, Karns, or vet FA,

They def. need to upgrade bench. Guessing Suzuki, Hairston, and possibly Dejesus stay
 
stpeteirish said:
Interesting execution of that strategy, putting him back on waivers.
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At least they now control DeJesus' destiny rather firmly ... they can pull him back off waivers if the team(s) they were originally trying to block him from reaching put in a claim.
 
gilesfan said:
They have 83 million committed to next year. With raises due for Strasburg, Ramos, Desmond, Zimmermann, Clippard, Storen, Detwiler; you are correct that may get up to 115ish.

Detwiler has back issue, guessing he will be back. 5th starter will likely be between Roark, Cole, Jordan, Karns, or vet FA,

They def. need to upgrade bench. Guessing Suzuki, Hairston, and possibly Dejesus stay
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Nats have 80 in guaranteed contracts, 2 Arb 3 players (Zimmerman and Clippard) 4 arb 2 guys (Storen, Detwiler, Desmond and bernadina) and 4 arb 1 guys (Ramos, Rodriguez, Espinosa, Strasburg)

Of that group maybe 4 are non tendered? Zimmerman will probably make aroudn 10M, Storen probably aroudn 5 or 6, Detwiler probably around 4 or 5, Desmond probably aroudn 5 or 6 maybe more though depending on if he gets any hardware, Ramos probably makes around 2 maybe a little less, and Strasburg goes up to at least 5 but probably goes higher. With those guys you're already starting out probably around 111, I don't see them cutting ties with Clippard or Bernadina, call me crazy, and I doubt they'll guy ties with Rodriguez and Espinosa both.
 
From District Sports Page:

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Key
FNT = Full no trade clause
NT = partial no trade clause
© = Club option
MO = Mutual option
A1, A2 or A3 = Arbitration eligible year 1, 2, or 3.
 
Bernadina has already been released.
Who is Rodriguez? Henry, who plays for Cubs?

Espinosa, if he stays, won't get that much in arby 1.

Guessing Clippard will be gone.
 
Hawk said:
From District Sports Page:

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Key
FNT = Full no trade clause
NT = partial no trade clause
© = Club option
MO = Mutual option
A1, A2 or A3 = Arbitration eligible year 1, 2, or 3.
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That is with arbitration estimates built in and assuming some buyouts/options.
 
zitothebrave said:
Not mess up, but I can see them having to take a lesser quality player at osme point because of it. Every team has a spending ceiling.
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IF they actually needed to save money, wouldn't they just not pick-up Sori's option? Ya know, since he's been horrible in the 2nd half and makes 7 mil, compared to 1.5?

He makes 1.5 MIL and we are talking about him like it's a 20 mil contract....this is stupid.
 
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