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yeezus said:
Meh. I think he'll stay. Wade declined quickly and Bosh is a good player, but not more. He'll get criticized no matter what he does, so it doesn't really matter. No one would win a championship with the squad that was around LeBron this past year. Even if you consider Bosh and Wade really good players still (they're not), there were zero decent role players around them. Their whole bench was terrible and Allen is nothing except a guy that can hit an occasional 3 any more. Chalmers is as useless as players in the NBA get.
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The role players look good when they win but they look bad when they lose. The Heat were a LEbron cramp away from being up 2-0 in the finals. Nobody would have said anything about a weak supporting cast then. Lebron basically was played to a draw by Leonard. That is the biggest reason they lost along with Wade being awful.
 
thethe said:
The role players look good when they win but they look bad when they lose. The Heat were a LEbron cramp away from being up 2-0 in the finals. Nobody would have said anything about a weak supporting cast then. Lebron basically was played to a draw by Leonard. That is the biggest reason they lost along with Wade being awful.
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Chalmers
Cole
Haslem
Anderson
Battier

all stink. STINK. And if Wade doesn't show up and plays poorly, there's no shot. I would say that regardless of a win or a loss. They win because of LeBron, but rarely lose because of him.
 
yeezus said:
Chalmers
Cole
Haslem
Anderson
Battier

all stink. STINK. And if Wade doesn't show up and plays poorly, there's no shot. I would say that regardless of a win or a loss. They win because of LeBron, but rarely lose because of him.
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Chalmers was excellent last year in the finals. Did a 28 year old forget how to play?
Chris Anderson was huge for them all year. Not sure if you followed the heat at all.
Battier was good for the heat in the past as well.

Again, they aren't great players but if you assemble three top players you aren't going to have a great supporting cast. Lebron can't get all the accolades when they win and none of hte blame when they lose. There has to be a happy median.
 
thethe said:
Chalmers was excellent last year in the finals. Did a 28 year old forget how to play?
Chris Anderson was huge for them all year. Not sure if you followed the heat at all.
Battier was good for the heat in the past as well.

Again, they aren't great players but if you assemble three top players you aren't going to have a great supporting cast. Lebron can't get all the accolades when they win and none of hte blame when they lose. There has to be a happy median.
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It's simple. When Miami won it was all praise Lebron. When they lost it was because he had no help.
 
yeezus said:
Meh. I think he'll stay. Wade declined quickly and Bosh is a good player, but not more. He'll get criticized no matter what he does, so it doesn't really matter. No one would win a championship with the squad that was around LeBron this past year. Even if you consider Bosh and Wade really good players still (they're not), there were zero decent role players around them. Their whole bench was terrible and Allen is nothing except a guy that can hit an occasional 3 any more. Chalmers is as useless as players in the NBA get.
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Funny how the supporting cast sucks now but you werent making this claim the last 3 years.

The excuses you make for your hero are hilarious, keep em coming.

If LeBron was better than Jordan, he shoulda averaged 41+ PPG in the Finals.
 
thethe said:
Chalmers was excellent last year in the finals. Did a 28 year old forget how to play?
Chris Anderson was huge for them all year. Not sure if you followed the heat at all.
Battier was good for the heat in the past as well.

Again, they aren't great players but if you assemble three top players you aren't going to have a great supporting cast. Lebron can't get all the accolades when they win and none of hte blame when they lose. There has to be a happy median.
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Yeah, this.

His supporting cast wasnt great, sure, but christ, the LeBron fanboys act like they'd win 5-10 games without him.

It's NEVER his fault when they lose, ever.
 
thethe said:
Chalmers was excellent last year in the finals. Did a 28 year old forget how to play?
Chris Anderson was huge for them all year. Not sure if you followed the heat at all.
Battier was good for the heat in the past as well.

Again, they aren't great players but if you assemble three top players you aren't going to have a great supporting cast. Lebron can't get all the accolades when they win and none of hte blame when they lose. There has to be a happy median.
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He may have been good in stretches, but Chalmers was basically not on the court this past year/post-season.
Really? Anderson was "huge" for them? Uhh. What's he do well? He was a garbage man when the Heat signed him and started playing him. He was not "huge" for them. Hyperbole to a "T" there.
It doesn't matter if Battier was "good in the past." He's a nothing player now. He provides solid defense and nothing else.

And it's actually pretty easy to not blame Bron when they lose. He's the best player in the game. He certainly did his part in almost every game. When no one else shows up, the team isn't going to win. He showed up consistently. No one else even came close. It's not even near his fault that they didn't win the championship. It was solely the fact that the supporting cast simply did not show up consistently. To say he should get any more than a small fraction of blame is really stupid.
 
Heyward said:
Yeah, this.

His supporting cast wasnt great, sure, but christ, the LeBron fanboys act like they'd win 5-10 games without him.

It's NEVER his fault when they lose, ever.
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Like I said before, without LeBron, that team is lucky to be an 8 seed in the EAST. Wouldn't sniff the West playoffs. They'd have won ~30 games in the West.
 
So they'd be lucky to barely win 40 games without LeBron?

Really.

REALLY?

GTFO.
 
thethe said:
Chalmers was excellent last year in the finals. Did a 28 year old forget how to play?
Chris Anderson was huge for them all year. Not sure if you followed the heat at all.
Battier was good for the heat in the past as well.

Again, they aren't great players but if you assemble three top players you aren't going to have a great supporting cast. Lebron can't get all the accolades when they win and none of hte blame when they lose. There has to be a happy median.
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Chalmers is terrible. Anderson is typical scrap heap
 
yeezus said:
lol.
and if he signs back for a lesser amount...? then what?
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Then, pretty unselfish move and good for him and the team.

I hate the move because it smells of "I just need better players around me," aka "It wasn't MY fault we lost to the Spurs." Well sometimes you just get beat by a better team. If you're smart you use the loss as motivation to get better...as a team.

It screws the fans of Miami if he leaves because of all the new fans he brought to the team? If Lebron, Wade and Bosh leave, those fans are left chewing on crap, just like his "beloved" fans in Cleveland.

Why not just be a man, take your loss and vow to work hard in the off-season?
 
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