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gilesfan said:
So that means he can shoot?
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This was a scouting report on him out of high school:

Strengths:
Karl is a tremendous prospect. He has nice size and length and has one of the most sought after skills in basketball...he can really shoot the ball! He has range to 25 feet and is a great catch and shoot player already.

This is a current report on him:

Excellent shooter with mid to three point range
 
For most of the season, the only real debate between Towns and Okafor centered on defense versus offense. Towns was the superior defender, Okafor the superior offensive player. However, in the past month, Towns has made tremendous strides offensively while still dominating the defensive side of the ball. In the last 10 games, Towns has averaged 13.0 PPG, 8.3 RPG and 2.5 BPG in just 24 MPG for Kentucky. During that stretch, he's shooting a crazy 50-for-68 from the field (74 percent) and 29-for-33 from the free-throw line (88 percent). He has clearly emerged as the best offensive weapon on this undefeated Kentucky team despite his age.

His ability to stretch the floor, protect the rim and make free throws may make up for his lack of low-post polish (though he's not too shabby there, either). A huge tournament for Towns, or even more importantly, a win in a one-on-one showdown with Okafor, might be all he needs to push him into the top spot.
 
thethe said:
This was a scouting report on him out of high school:

Strengths:
Karl is a tremendous prospect. He has nice size and length and has one of the most sought after skills in basketball...he can really shoot the ball! He has range to 25 feet and is a great catch and shoot player already.

This is a current report on him:

Excellent shooter with mid to three point range
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Chops summary is better than this bc he's not really a threat out to the 3 point line. Maybe he gets their, but is raw.

If he blows up in the tourney and shows serious offensive ability and not just finishing open layups, he could really make a case.
 
He's not really a 3 point threat at this point.

I will say it's funny to say he's 25% from 3 as a point against him... I haven't looked at the stats, but I have watched every Kentucky game this year and I'm guessing he's either 1/4 or 2/8 from beyond the arc.

He is a good shooter though. I would never use the word "raw" to describe his offense.

 
One question I have about Okafor offensively (albeit a small one) is how effective he will be using his body at the next level. So often he catches the ball 10-12 feet out from the basket and just uses his power to back down smaller defenders. I don't think he's going to get away with that against the bigger, more clever defenders in the NBA.

Of course, his footwork is still otherwordly for someone his age. He's just going to have a harder time scoring from that far out in the NBA (no shocker there, I know).
 
holden said:
One question I have about Okafor offensively (albeit a small one) is how effective he will be using his body at the next level. So often he catches the ball 10-12 feet out from the basket and just uses his power to back down smaller defenders. I don't think he's going to get away with that against the bigger, more clever defenders in the NBA.

Of course, his footwork is still otherwordly for someone his age. He's just going to have a harder time scoring from that far out in the NBA (no shocker there, I know).
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He is going to score at the next level. It doesn't take much for a man his size to be able to score down low. He is very sure of his steps and knows how to use his body to create space.

The problem he is going to have is defending. Not being able to dominate in college at that end of the floor spells potential disaster at the next level.
 
holden said:
One question I have about Okafor offensively (albeit a small one) is how effective he will be using his body at the next level. So often he catches the ball 10-12 feet out from the basket and just uses his power to back down smaller defenders. I don't think he's going to get away with that against the bigger, more clever defenders in the NBA.

Of course, his footwork is still otherwordly for someone his age. He's just going to have a harder time scoring from that far out in the NBA (no shocker there, I know).
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Ueah, was just a counter to a scouting report saying he has 3 point range, which he doesnt right now.
 
Does the fact that Towns plays vs pure trash mean anything?

Okafor goes up against Virgina, ND, Louisville, UNC, Miami, NC St, Cuse, Pitt

Towns is playing in the horrible SEC.

Again, to repeat what Giles said....no one is knocking Towns, I've said for the last 6 months he would be a top 3 pick, so how can I hate him? We are saying to pick him because of "rim protection" is dumb. Also saying Okafor is a 0 on D is dumb
 
If Towns was just about defense then nobody would take him with the first overall pick. He has a more well rounded package and tops it off with elite athleticism which is something that will aide him in reaching his potential ceiling. Scouts love the potential range on his shooting and you won't be able to put him on the line which allows him to stay on the floor in crunch time without reservation.

However, Okafor does not project well on the defensive side of the ball because of his lack of foot speed and average athletic ability.

If you want to continue to warp peoples argument to make you feel better than by all means do so. Just know that you are wrong and then its fine.
 
Ibaka to see a specialist about his sore knee.

I am convinced now the basketball Gods are punishing OKC for trading Harden. The injury luck they've had the past few years has been absurd.
 
thethe said:
Ibaka to see a specialist about his sore knee.

I am convinced now the basketball Gods are punishing OKC for trading Harden. The injury luck they've had the past few years has been absurd.
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They aren't making it out of the west anyway. It's too bad they couldn't get a ring because they were fun to watch. Without looking it up I'd say the Thunder could be the best team to never win a finals.
 
BRule said:
You and c2c, several times.......but if you want to back track now, feel free to enlighten us as to why else you'd take him over Okafor.
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I did no such thing.

I don't even know who is the better player. I don't watch college basketball.

All I have ever said is that rim protection is the most important aspect of being a center. Given the choice, I would take a no offense defensive center over a no defense offensive center.
 
And if towns could potentially become an elite rim protector that can hit 3's then this is a no brainer.

Every team on earth should want that guy.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
They aren't making it out of the west anyway. It's too bad they couldn't get a ring because they were fun to watch. Without looking it up I'd say the Thunder could be the best team to never win a finals.
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Well, I disagree they won't get out of the West this year as long as they ge tthese players back and make the playoffs.

Plus this team has at the very least 1 more year and then there is a great chance the core stays together either way.
 
chop2chip said:
And if towns could potentially become an elite rim protector that can hit 3's then this is a no brainer.

Every team on earth should want that guy.
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I don't think Brule and GF realize how the game is played now at the NBA level. Dantoni changed everything.
 
chop2chip said:
And if towns could potentially become an elite rim protector that can hit 3's then this is a no brainer.

Every team on earth should want that guy.
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That's probably not the case. Also, do we know Towns will be an elite rim protector? He's playing next to an even better defender in college and how much of the interior defense can be distributed between the two?
 
thethe said:
I don't think Brule and GF realize how the game is played now at the NBA level. Dantoni changed everything.
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I fully understand. I also understand, there were other big men that projected as very good to great rim protectors that didn't pan out (Javelle Mcgee, Larry Sanders, others)

I love watching Towns play and I've seen him a ton. If you take him over Okafor, that's fine....but it's with a big risk as he's a very high ceiling, but not a sure thing. Whereas, you can plug Okafor into the starting lineup right now and get a productive big man.

It's like you don't even read what I'm saying.
 
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