NBA Thread

[thethe]

to my completely untrained eye, i saw so little from him in the UK games I watched, especially offensively. i know this is ironic coming from a noel supporter, but he's gotta be even more raw offensively. definitely can't deny what he did on D though. i'm not a fan.

Hard to gauge these players when they play on such a stacked team. You would not put WCS next to a player like Towns in the NBA in an ideal situation. Towns could feasably provide all the rim protection you would need and could surround him with stretch players. He has good hands on the roll so you can attack with a 1-5 spread PnR.

 

[yeezus]

Hard to gauge these players when they play on such a stacked team. You would not put WCS next to a player like Towns in the NBA in an ideal situation. Towns could feasably provide all the rim protection you would need and could surround him with stretch players. He has good hands on the roll so you can attack with a 1-5 spread PnR.

true, but he wasn't with towns the season before this past one, and it just looked like he was a terrible finisher.

 

[Heyward]

WCS has no offensive game, he can basically only score from put backs, and lobs, and whatnot.

Good rebounder, defender but at 4 is a bit of a reach, maybe if they moved back for more picks though.

 

[chop2chip]

WCS has no offensive game, he can basically only score from put backs, and lobs, and whatnot.

Good rebounder, defender but at 4 is a bit of a reach, maybe if they moved back for more picks though.

Would you draft Deandre Jordan top 5? Not saying he is that caliber, but it wouldn't be unreasonable.

 

[thethe]

Would you draft Deandre Jordan top 5? Not saying he is that caliber, but it wouldn't be unreasonable.

The same DeAndre that might get a max deal.

 

[yeezus]

Would you draft Deandre Jordan top 5? Not saying he is that caliber, but it wouldn't be unreasonable.

if you really think he will be that, sure. but that's far from a guarantee.

 

[gilesfan]

The same DeAndre that might get a max deal.

Those things getting passed out lime candy?

 

[chop2chip]

if you really think he will be that, sure. but that's far from a guarantee.

I don't think WCS is a top 5 pick. I was responding to Heyward's general point that a guy with no offensive game is a reach as a top 5 pick. I just don't think his limitations should overshadow what he does well.

Limited players like Noel, Gobert, Jordan, etc. are all rim protectors that warranted being top picks. We might look at Stein in a couple of years and think the same thing.

 

[Heyward]

Would you draft Deandre Jordan top 5? Not saying he is that caliber, but it wouldn't be unreasonable.

If they want a big over a PG/perimeter guy like Winslow or Mudiay, i guess.

But no i still wouldnt.

 

[Heyward]

The same DeAndre that might get a max deal.

Meh, pretty much everyone is getting max deals these days.

 

[holden]

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[50PoundHead]

I mean, he's not that terribly far off from it. 3% of ..363 with 26% of his shots from 3. True shooting% of .566. Love is an absolute monster on the boards as well.

Bird, for comparison shot .376% with .564 ts%, but a lot less of his attempts were from 3. (I somehow remember him more as a 3 point shooter)

That's all good in the two-dimensional stat world. I meant more from a standpoint that the Celtics could run the offense through Bird. Love had a lousy supporting cast in Minnesota, but he doesn't have the ability to be a "point forward" in the half-court game like Bird did. Bird was simply more savvy than Love is (and had an unbelievable first step).

 

[thethe]

Wow, did I miss GF comparing Love to Bird?

 

[yeezus]

Apparently "at least three" Bulls players trashed Thibs to the FO, and said they'd avoid team facilities this summer if he were still there.
Not something to automatically believe, but it is what it is.

 

[thethe]

Apparently "at least three" Bulls players trashed Thibs to the FO, and said they'd avoid team facilities this summer if he were still there.
Not something to automatically believe, but it is what it is.

Sounds like a leak from the Bulls front office. May or may not be true but this should not have been leaked. Thibs did a solid job when we has there and didn't deserve that.

 

[yeezus]

Sounds like a leak from the Bulls front office. May or may not be true but this should not have been leaked. Thibs did a solid job when we has there and didn't deserve that.

Pretty sure he's historically good, statistically.
Very odd, that whole thing.

 

[thethe]

Pretty sure he's historically good, statistically.
Very odd, that whole thing.

Bulls have a crazy amount of talent. That front office knows what they are doing with player personal. In other areas they are pretty bad.

Consider in one year they drated both Jimmy Butler and Mirotic when their first pick was #30!!!

Thats AMAZING!

 

[gilesfan]

That's all good in the two-dimensional stat world. I meant more from a standpoint that the Celtics could run the offense through Bird. Love had a lousy supporting cast in Minnesota, but he doesn't have the ability to be a "point forward" in the half-court game like Bird did. Bird was simply more savvy than Love is (and had an unbelievable first step).

Exactly right. Love is a great shooter like Bird, but he's not the facilitator nor can he take people off the dribble like Bird. Love is a great rebounder, OTOH, but loses points for lack of defense and grit.

 

[gilesfan]

Wow, did I miss GF comparing Love to Bird?

As a shooter, yes.

 

[thethe]

As a shooter, yes.

First off, your words were that he was not that far off from Bird when 50 wrote that Love thought he was Bird.

As a shooter when he is standing in a corner and receiving a pass.

In every single other aspect of basketball Bird was 10000000000000X better than Lowe.