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thethe said:
Jordan on any team would have resulted in numerous championships. Similar to what SAV said about Barkley applies to Jordan despite him.bding considered a consensus top 2 of all time..

I feel people younger than 35 dont understand how incredible he was
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As someone under 35 I take offense to that. Though I will say a lot of people in my age group never got to see peak Gretzky. We saw Gretzky, but he was older and while still the great one, he wasn't notching 150+ points a season anymore. Still a legend of course but it was like watching Randy Johnson in the mid 2000s.

Jordan I wouldn't compare to Gretzky because he didn't really hit his stride til late 80s or early 90s.
 
thethe said:
Don't sleep on those Suns teams. Kevin Johnson was a stud. Hes not Stockton of course but that Suns roster was damn good It was just impossible to beat the Bulls when Jordan was still somewhat younger. In a world where the 92/93 Suns play the 97 or 98 Bulls I think they have a chance
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Sorry, that roster without Barkley (the league MVP) does not make the Finals, probably doesn't make it deep into the west.
 
zitothebrave said:
As someone under 35 I take offense to that. Though I will say a lot of people in my age group never got to see peak Gretzky. We saw Gretzky, but he was older and while still the great one, he wasn't notching 150+ points a season anymore. Still a legend of course but it was like watching Randy Johnson in the mid 2000s.

Jordan I wouldn't compare to Gretzky because he didn't really hit his stride til late 80s or early 90s.
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At 35 you were 5 years old when Jordan won his first title. His second three peat you would have been 10 or 11 and he was a shell of himself (still all time great).
 
thethe said:
He LIVED to play the Knicks. I'll never forget the double nickel game.
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John Starks was a pretty good defender and played without fear, but he had no answer for Jordan that game. That's one game I re-watched last week. He played Jordan well at times over his career, but that night Jordan beat him like a drum.
 
thethe said:
I dont think the jazz do either without one of those guys
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Question is, if you swap Malone and Barkley do either team change? If the answer is no then they're equals. And to me that answer is for sure no. Barkley out produces Malone, I'd bet on that.
 
thethe said:
At 35 you were 5 years old when Jordan won his first title. His second three peat you would have been 10 or 11 and he was a shell of himself (still all time great).
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Still witnessed most of Jordan's greatness. It's not like Bird. Or Magic, who were playing their final seasons when I was forming early memories. Saying I don't remember Jordan is like saying I don't remember the Braves winning the 96 world series.
 
zitothebrave said:
Still witnessed most of Jordan's greatness. It's not like Bird. Or Magic, who were playing their final seasons when I was forming early memories. Saying I don't remember Jordan is like saying I don't remember the Braves winning the 96 world series.
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Being a sports fan at 10 is different than being one at 18.
 
zitothebrave said:
Still witnessed most of Jordan's greatness. It's not like Bird. Or Magic, who were playing their final seasons when I was forming early memories. Saying I don't remember Jordan is like saying I don't remember the Braves winning the 96 world series.
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I'm not sure it made a difference. At the time malone was probabaly a tick better than Barkley but early 90s barkley on those jazz teams might have made a difference if you swap out malone.
 
thewupk said:
No doubt that Barkley was great. But Jordan stopped a lot of all-time greats from winning titles
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They beat the hawks like a drum. Nique is an under appreciated player because he couldn’t top MJ.

I think that’s going to be the issue for anyone not watching that generation of ball... it was MJ and everyone else and the best of the rest kinda gets pushed aside a bit. Totally agree on Barkley above. Criminally forgotten about player these days
 
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Tapate50 said:
They beat the hawks like a drum. Nique is an under appreciated player because he couldn’t top MJ.

I think that’s going to be the issue for anyone not watching that generation of ball... it was MJ and everyone else and the best of the rest kinda gets pushed aside a bit. Totally agree on Barkley above. Criminally forgotten about player these days
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Barkely would have probably been even better in the modern NBA. He would have been a center and always had a good shooting stroke.
 
thethe said:
Man do I love seeing video of the 80's bulls.

This documentary has been brilliant.
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Yup. I have found leaks through Episode 8. Not sure if I want to go ahead and watch them or just wait. Since I would have to wait anyways for 9 and 10 to come out. Rodman is great.
 
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Westbrook is a poor man's AI. But he's hurt heavily by the era he plays in. James, Durant, Harden, Paul, Curry all shadow heavily over him. And Davis while he doesn't have the counting stats is the best player in the NBA right now. Only thing I think may happen that will be robbery is if Kawhi isn't in the top 40.
 
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