New Hampshire takes first steps to legalization.
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jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Why would he agree? Neither of those "ramifications" is a certainty, much less especially likely.
sturg33
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I'm not yeezus (thank God), but I would almost certainly not agree.
But if DUI's are you're issue, why aren't you in favor of banning alcohol? (or are you)
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
No, I think if it was legal vs illegal the same people who use it heavily would still use it heavily, the same people who use it recreationally would still use it recreationally.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
HAHAHAHA
Thethe, to me it's just logical to see that if you put pot in so many more hands that DUI's will go up. Pot does effect ones reflexes. I don't see how some one can so it won't. Common math says it will.
If x amount of people on weed causes y dui's today, then x+(increase of people on pot) will an increase y. Aren't you an accountant? How's that not true?
I ****ing hate people behind the wheel that are impaired.
Second, pot is a beginner drug. People don't start out on cocaine or smack. They start out with weed, cough syrup, pills etc. people build up tolerances and Thier high will have to increase. Pot may not be so addictive but the neurological result of being high is. Then as people age Thier drugs if choice increases as the euphoric feelings of being high get greater.
Pot is and is not a gateway drug. I would assume 95% of all drug addicts probably started with weed. Not everyone can maintain a casual lifestyle and not get addicted.
No one is going to argue that the more guns on the streets the more shootings will happen. Accidental and Purposeful. Why wouldn't pot be the same?
A) more people that are scared to do it will dabble. Some of them will enjoy it and smoke more
B) people that smoke now will smoke more
C) more smokers equal more impaired drivers. More impaired drivers equal more dui's and more innocent victims.
D) more people that get high leads to more addicts.
E) addiction leads to more crime
The the: What part of A-E is not correct?
If x amount of people on weed causes y dui's today, then x+(increase of people on pot) will an increase y. Aren't you an accountant? How's that not true?
I ****ing hate people behind the wheel that are impaired.
Second, pot is a beginner drug. People don't start out on cocaine or smack. They start out with weed, cough syrup, pills etc. people build up tolerances and Thier high will have to increase. Pot may not be so addictive but the neurological result of being high is. Then as people age Thier drugs if choice increases as the euphoric feelings of being high get greater.
Pot is and is not a gateway drug. I would assume 95% of all drug addicts probably started with weed. Not everyone can maintain a casual lifestyle and not get addicted.
No one is going to argue that the more guns on the streets the more shootings will happen. Accidental and Purposeful. Why wouldn't pot be the same?
A) more people that are scared to do it will dabble. Some of them will enjoy it and smoke more
B) people that smoke now will smoke more
C) more smokers equal more impaired drivers. More impaired drivers equal more dui's and more innocent victims.
D) more people that get high leads to more addicts.
E) addiction leads to more crime
The the: What part of A-E is not correct?
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
Pot is so easy to get that I don't believe more people will do it if it were legalized. I've never believed in pot being a gateway drug. Its in a persons character whether or not they want to explore harder drugs. I smoked every day for 6 years of my life. The only other drugs that I've ever done were mushrooms (so much fun) and a smoked opium twice. I never became an addict to any other drugs. Regardless if its legal or not the individual decidees how many additional drugs they are going to do.
I've used pot sparingly, mainly recreationally.
It actually works better to help my hyperthyroidism symptoms than my Tapazole/Atenonole.
Obviously I don't do it when I know there's an upcoming drug test at work.
It is easier to get than I thought, mainyl because 1 out of 5 friends use it so I can just share with them.
Legalizing it may expose pot to those who were afraid of doing it because of the law, so in that regard I'm sure that would get more people on the road driving high.
For those who already do it illegally, it won't change their habits.
It actually works better to help my hyperthyroidism symptoms than my Tapazole/Atenonole.
Obviously I don't do it when I know there's an upcoming drug test at work.
It is easier to get than I thought, mainyl because 1 out of 5 friends use it so I can just share with them.
Legalizing it may expose pot to those who were afraid of doing it because of the law, so in that regard I'm sure that would get more people on the road driving high.
For those who already do it illegally, it won't change their habits.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
People's arguments against marijuana are so weak and not based in fact.
It's been PROVEN that it is NOT a gateway drug.
It really is infuriating all the bull**** that gets spewed about it.
Everything you said is so ridiculous, it blows my mind that you think it's true.
Alcohol is far more a gateway than weed, and I don't believe either one is a "gateway." People are people. They are going to seek things out whether they start at X or Y. What's hard drug addiction like in places where weed is legalized?
I wouldn't really smoke more. I smoke whenever I want as it is. That doesn't mean I smoke before work, or when I have other responsibilities.
Please provide backing for anything you just said. How in the hell is weed "addiction" going to lead to more crime? How does that rationally make sense to you? If anything, you'd eliminate violent drug cartels by legalizing drugs, and a lot of drugs crimes and arrests by legalizing. Look what it's done for Portugal. Seriously, look it up. Hard drug addiciton is DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY! You have no sources for anything you've said, it's generalized, assumptive bull****. It's willfull ignorance.
Do you drink alcohol, and do you feel it should be illegal?
It's been PROVEN that it is NOT a gateway drug.
It really is infuriating all the bull**** that gets spewed about it.
Everything you said is so ridiculous, it blows my mind that you think it's true.
Alcohol is far more a gateway than weed, and I don't believe either one is a "gateway." People are people. They are going to seek things out whether they start at X or Y. What's hard drug addiction like in places where weed is legalized?
I wouldn't really smoke more. I smoke whenever I want as it is. That doesn't mean I smoke before work, or when I have other responsibilities.
Please provide backing for anything you just said. How in the hell is weed "addiction" going to lead to more crime? How does that rationally make sense to you? If anything, you'd eliminate violent drug cartels by legalizing drugs, and a lot of drugs crimes and arrests by legalizing. Look what it's done for Portugal. Seriously, look it up. Hard drug addiciton is DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY! You have no sources for anything you've said, it's generalized, assumptive bull****. It's willfull ignorance.
Do you drink alcohol, and do you feel it should be illegal?
sturg33
I
You never answered my question... If DUI's are your issue (since you clearly don't give a **** about individual liberty) - then you do support making alcohol illegal?
FreemanFan
Danville Rookie
Most people try alcohol before they smoke pot. I can't understand how anyone can say pot is dangerous enough to be illegal while still supporting legal alcohol, which kills thousands of people annually. Pot doesn't even qualify as a Schedule II drug, IMO. I would legalize it for adults and tax and regulate it like alcohol and cigarettes.
I agree with this sentiment.
People going around saying pot is harmless need to seriously tone it down. It can be safe when used correctly, but not for everybody... just like alcohol. The recent study on the similarities in brain changes between marijuana smokers and schizophrenics demonstrates just how elementary our psychological understanding of the drug and its effects are.
Legalize it and regulate it.
I couldn't sleep. Effected my whole day following.
gtcway
Spring Training Invitee
I've never smoked, marijuana or cigarettes, and don't have any desire to try either. I drink socially, which isn't often. Personally, I see no reason why pot shouldn't be legal if alcohol and cigarettes are.
With so many people's lives ruined or taken as the result of alcohol and tobacco, I can't understand why there isn't more outrage against it.
With so many people's lives ruined or taken as the result of alcohol and tobacco, I can't understand why there isn't more outrage against it.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Just to be clear: while I largely agree with you—especially about the elementary nature of our understanding, something that's been hampered greatly by social stigmas and institutional embargoes on greater research—the studies to which you allude have almost entirely, if not exclusively, concerned long-term (5+ years) heavy users (at least one smoking-session per day, on average)—who are, at that frequency and for that duration, often smoking some of the highest-potency cannabis available (at least readily) on the underground market.
The fact is, though, specialists aren't even really sure exactly which cannabinoids do what—which, again, is just to say that I agree that harmless has been an overreaction to social stigmas and institutional overexertions, when the more responsible and appropriate argument is that cannabis is less harmful than its Schedule or its legality indicates.