Official 2017 Trade Deadilne Thread
- Thread starter Oklahomabrave
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Yep.
They will get at least one top 50 prospect for him in this market, and neither of those two is close to that.
zbhargrove
Well-known member
Anderson is most certainly close to a top 50 prospect.
ixiXSolidXixi
Called Up to the Major Leagues
I make a post two days ago. Anderson, Gohara, Demeritte and Wisler for Sonny Gray and Doolittle.
That give us a rotation:
Gray
Teheran
Folty
Newcomb
Dickey
With a farm:
Allard
Soroka
Wright
Fried
Wentz
Muller
Another thing Braves need to move quicky because Yankees are going to act quick.
That give us a rotation:
Gray
Teheran
Folty
Newcomb
Dickey
With a farm:
Allard
Soroka
Wright
Fried
Wentz
Muller
Another thing Braves need to move quicky because Yankees are going to act quick.
My bad, apparently it's time for me to sleep, totally read Anderson and saw that as Newcomb somehow. You're right, that would be a fair deal for Gray, though I'm still not thinking that gets it done in this trade market.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
yeah i think Allard or Soroka would have to be in to get Gray. But i'd do something like TD, Gohara and Anderson for Gray.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Does anyone else get this feeling that the FO is HO blinded by wanting a controllable SP that we are about to do something really dumb to get it.
Stupid would be giving up any of Albies, Acuna, or Maitan. I would probably throw Wright in there as I think he is our future ace. If we trade any of our other prospects for a controllable starter and it's fair value then I wouldn't have an issue with it. I would prefer to when we are closer to contending though.
Even me as the biggest optimistic thinks its the wrong time to trade for a starting pitcher. I want to see how good Acuna/Albies are in the majors lnext season before I make some sort of deal.
Let's see what we could get Hamels for. Absorbing that contract would reduce the return in assets from our side.
Southcack77
Well-known member
Because established major league pitchers are more dependable than prospects. Not hard to figure out.
The wisdom of it? Something else to consider.
I would trade Albies for Archer. Wouldn't do it for Gray. Agree with the Braves that doing it for Quintana wasn't something to get serious about.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
U are all underestimating q. If I could get q for Albies and gohara I'm doing it.
Too good. Too much control. Too cheap.
I'd do it for archer too. It's not nearly enough
I would not give up anyone in our top 7 for gray
Too good. Too much control. Too cheap.
I'd do it for archer too. It's not nearly enough
I would not give up anyone in our top 7 for gray
A move to the NL woudl also help those numbers. I'd probably say no ultimately but its not ridiculous for the White Sox to expect a player like Albies for Quintana.
Hopefully we are in that position with a couple of guys in 5 years.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Its more so trading Albies for a SP when we have a ton coming up the pipeline fairly soon.
Q's contract is extremely team-friendly though.
I dont think the Braves are in position to be trading away a guy like Albies for Q, but it's certainly not crazy from the White Sox to expect someone like Albies for Q in return.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Only one available is Gray.
I dont wanna imagine what a package for Archer would cost but Rays are still in contention and he'd put a hurting on our system.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
You could also trade one of those guys for a 2b. Dozier?
You are hoping you get close to the results of q from your elite guys. It's not likely you get 75 percent of q from allard soroka wright if you go by probability. Cost controlled big time starters are the most valuable thing in the game. You aren't getting him with more than 1.5 yr control for guys outside top 50
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
This is true, cost-controlled SP's are the most expensive thing to obtain in baseball.
And yes, it's unlikely all 3 of Allard, Wright, Soroka, even Gohara, Anderson all work out as well.
If we could get a window to sign Machado, i'd trade some of them plus Ozzie for him, but thats way too risky. As well as Arenado, but he's a Boras client.
Albies and Gohara is fair value for Q. I just don't think it's time for that type of move yet.
Next trade dealing things will be a lot more clear. Just trade Phillips/Garcia/Adams. Keep the bullpen because that will translate to the most wins saved IMO after a sell-off. Let Albies play at 2B / Camargo at 3B / Wisler or Sims as the 5th starter. Maybe even start platooning Kemp/Markakis if Acuna is called up.
Just have a fun September and figure out 3B longterm in the offseason.
Given the lack of available, cost-controlled starters on selling teams, it is the absolute worst time to trade for a starting pitcher. It is also the absolute best time to trade Teheran for maximum return.
Trade Julio now and if you want to deal for a starter, do it in the offseason when the market isn't so limited.
We stockpiled pitching prospects under the guise of them being currency. Use that currency in the winter to add a long term rotation piece if you must. But at no point should our top 3 position prospects be moved for more pitching.
Trade Julio now and if you want to deal for a starter, do it in the offseason when the market isn't so limited.
We stockpiled pitching prospects under the guise of them being currency. Use that currency in the winter to add a long term rotation piece if you must. But at no point should our top 3 position prospects be moved for more pitching.