Official 2017 Trade Deadilne Thread

The return for Garcia is not going to be anything earth shaking. If we hold onto him until the end of the month and he has a couple bad games cooling off all interest in him, it's not a major loss.

Honestly, nothing we'd be willing to sell right now (Dickey, Garcia, Phillips) is particularly elite. There are better players on the block that will draw interest first. Right now we just need to wait. The better players that teams are actually willing to move are going to be moved or teams will fall out of the race for them. When that happens we'll have a better market for our guys. The market for second tier guys like these usually heats up in the days nearing the deadline as more teams turn to option B.

Waiting also gives us a chance to either fall farther out or start to climb back into it.

The benefits of waiting outweigh the drawbacks.
 
sturg33 said:
Headley is a ~2 WAR player, so $13M is well worth him. Additionally, only 1 year is a great stop gap to buy us time to find a long term piece.

He'd be a good candiate to bridge the gap for us next year... much better than Prado et all
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I don't think much of Headley, but you're right that he'd be a decent bridge candidate. I would prefer him to investing 3 or 4 years in Todd Frazier.
 
gilesfan said:
Chase Headley is owed something like 20 million dollars between now and the end of his contract (2018). In that time, he will give you roughly 1.5 to 3 WAR. Its not only not a terrible contract, but probably a perfect one to consider if the Yanks have to motivation to get rid of the contract. This is an odd post.
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Do you have any clue how much 1.5 to 3 WAR costs on the FA market?

Of course you don't, so I'll tell you:

$15M-$30M.

Headley's contract isn't that bad at all. It's not good, but if the Braves get him for a nothing prospect it could be a decent move.
 
striker42 said:
The return for Garcia is not going to be anything earth shaking. If we hold onto him until the end of the month and he has a couple bad games cooling off all interest in him, it's not a major loss.

Honestly, nothing we'd be willing to sell right now (Dickey, Garcia, Phillips) is particularly elite. There are better players on the block that will draw interest first. Right now we just need to wait. The better players that teams are actually willing to move are going to be moved or teams will fall out of the race for them. When that happens we'll have a better market for our guys. The market for second tier guys like these usually heats up in the days nearing the deadline as more teams turn to option B.

Waiting also gives us a chance to either fall farther out or start to climb back into it.

The benefits of waiting outweigh the drawbacks.
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Agree with what you said about our pieces not being elite, but the SP market is very weak right now. The Giants pitchers are expensive and/or are a mess. Padres have Clayton Richard. Tigers would ship Verlander at a price nobody will be wanting to pay. Sonny Gray. Who else? Not a whole lot out there. The Rangers don't know what they are doing. It's basically Gray and a bunch of below average pitchers.

If there was ever a time to trade Garcia or Dickey, it's now. Won't ever get a higher return for them.
 
Enscheff said:
Do you have any clue how much 1.5 to 3 WAR costs on the FA market?

Of course you don't, so I'll tell you:

$15M-$30M.

Headley's contract isn't that bad at all. It's not good, but if the Braves get him for a nothing prospect it could be a decent move.
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I read it a couple of times before understanding it also, but giles was saying that Headley's contract wasn't bad.
 
clvclv said:
Taking Headley back to help them with their payroll crunch is about as counterproductive as it gets.

Make sure I get this right - you want Andujar so bad that you're willing to swap Garcia for Headley (more or less salary neutral for this season), AND tie up $13 million (instead of whatever Adams stands to make in arbitration next winter) of our 2018 payroll for someone who will contribute less offensively if he plays every day than Adams would off the bench?

The Yankees HAVE the money - they just don't want to spend it. That's their problem. If I'm giving them two pieces they can really use because their fans are pressuring them to win this year, let Cashman do his job and figure out if it's worth going to ownership to find out if it's OK if he exceeds the cap to do so. If they absolutely have to have some salary relief, tell them we'll take Aaron Hicks' and Adam Warren's money back - they're not guaranteed anything next year - that would help with their roster crunch plus cover Adams' money AND clear up their OF logjam.

I like him and all, but Andujar isn't a good enough prospect to be trading useful MLB pieces AND taking on useless dead money for - and Headley would do nothing but get in the way here. If Andujar needs more time, we've already got Rodriguez.

Are you sure you're not a closet Yankees fan?
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This is funny. So much wrong here.
 
Headley is a very mediocre baseball player. So much so that the Yankees just traded for the 3b version of Chris Carter to replace him.
 
Enscheff said:
Do you have any clue how much 1.5 to 3 WAR costs on the FA market?

Of course you don't, so I'll tell you:

$15M-$30M.

Headley's contract isn't that bad at all. It's not good, but if the Braves get him for a nothing prospect it could be a decent move.
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Of course I understand what that gets on the FA market, which is why I made the point I did and you backed it up despite all the other drivel added. I guess comprehension is something you struggle with.
 
nsacpi said:
I'm sure Harry will respond in due course. But he has been very vocal about trading Teheran. He was once very much in favor of trading Freeman but seems to now favor giving him some sort of face-of-the-franchise exemption.
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Yes. Teheran should have been traded and now that he has strung together some good starts and rebuilt his value "a bit," with the premium on SP for real contenders, I would see what he would bring back. I wouldn't need to obviously "win" a deal to move him, not near a Quintana deal which won't happen now anyway, but...say Houston was willing to go Teheran and Viz for OF Fisher, C Rogers and OF Gilberto Celestino then you make that move.

As for trading Freeman, I think that when the rebuild was obviously in full force, I would have shopped him hard to see if I could have gotten a premium return for him, but now, I can't see any way to trade him. To be fair to Freddie, he has advanced to where he is now a true "face of the franchise" kind of player. I've always maintained that to be a FoF type player, said player must be at least top three at his position in baseball. I think Freddie is now in that group (Votto, Goldschmidt - guys like Rizzo, Bellinger are close).

Trading Freeman 1-2 years ago would have brought more quantity and quality talent to the team and given the FO time to replace Freeman before the window begins to open (either internally or through FA). But now, it's too late for that I think.
 
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