Official 2024 Off-Season Thread!

bravesnumberone said:
Curious how quickly this Yamamoto thing moves. Like did he immediately get 12 offers as soon as the window opened this morning?
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I mean with Nola off the board, him and Snell are 1-2 on the market then Gray. Yama comes with no draft picks lost, just pure money.
 
Super said:
I don’t see why Grissom can’t be Stott or better with the bat. He’s not as good of a defender, but his EVs did go up this year in a limited sample and he’ll only be 23 when the season starts. If he can play solid defense at 2B, he could definitely be a starting-caliber player.
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I don't know if I can remember a player on whom the fan base is as divided as it is with Grissom. I think you've summed it up pretty well here. His AAA season was great and he may develop more power, which would obviously lift his value. The question that remains revolves around his defense and if he's ever going to be anything more than average at either 2B or SS. Of course, if he hits, that mitigates the defensive shortcomings and a power improvement may make 3B or LF an option for him.

Many would disagree with me, but I don't see him as brimming with athleticism. He's projects to a reasonable floor with a medium ceiling. I don't know what that translates in terms of either bWAR or fWar or any of the other alphabet soup categories.
 
Fangraphs dropped a nice piece on the Lopez signing. This part sums up my thoughts perfectly:

My best guess is that the Braves simply have so many relievers right now that they don’t see any harm in letting López try to stretch out his arm. If he can do it, awesome. If he can’t, maybe that offseason of training will unlock a few extra games where he goes multiple innings, or some swingman-style starts where he fills in for a rotation gap.


Link: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/what-do-you-get-the-team-that-has-everything-reynaldo-lopez-apparently/
 
Super said:
There is going to be intense competition for Yama.
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Of course. The kid's repertoire is insane and he immediately becomes a top-two pitcher on most teams. Wherever he goes, the team is going to be forking over $200M over the next half-decade-plus.
 
Darvish had pretty close numbers to Yama in Japan and he’s been fine. Yama is the better pitcher of the 2 so hopefully it translates to the MLB.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
Someone showed comparisons between him and Yu Darvish. Both of whom came over around the same age and have a large repertoire of pitches.

So if you could essentially add a young Yu Darvish to your rotation, would you?
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No doubt. I wouldn’t think it would take that long for teams to make offers. If AA doesn’t sign or trade for a starter soon then that would tell me that he’s waiting on Yama to make a decision bc he has a good offer out.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
Someone showed comparisons between him and Yu Darvish. Both of whom came over around the same age and have a large repertoire of pitches.

So if you could essentially add a young Yu Darvish to your rotation, would you?
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Yeah, I would. But Yu is 6'5" and this guy is, like, Stroman size. I mean, you can do it, Pedro did it, but you've got to be exceptional. Apparently YY is exceptionally flexible in addition to being in animal shape, so I'm sure that's a big part of his success.

And the clips I've seen show absolutely incredible stuff.
 
Carp said:
For Robert maybe. It's extremely unlikely that package brings you back Cease and Robert. And as you said, AA isn't making that trade regardless.
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That group of mediocre prospects is not coming close to cease and Robert. Once again this board is dramatically overvaluing the Braves terrible farm system.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
Fangraphs dropped a nice piece on the Lopez signing. This part sums up my thoughts perfectly:

My best guess is that the Braves simply have so many relievers right now that they don’t see any harm in letting López try to stretch out his arm. If he can do it, awesome. If he can’t, maybe that offseason of training will unlock a few extra games where he goes multiple innings, or some swingman-style starts where he fills in for a rotation gap.


Link: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/what-do-you-get-the-team-that-has-everything-reynaldo-lopez-apparently/
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This is my criticism with the BP expenditures. How many 7th inning guys does a roster need? Why does a team need Jimenez, Johnson and Lopez? They aren’t all going to impact games in October, and seem like moves to win 100 games, not make a deep playoff run.

It’s fine to build this deep BP in addition to getting another legit SP and a quality LF, but if this BP was built at the expense of those positions it was a mistake.
 
Enscheff said:
This is my criticism with the BP expenditures. How many 7th inning guys does a roster need? Why does a team need Jimenez, Johnson and Lopez? They aren’t all going to impact games in October, and seem like moves to win 100 games, not make a deep playoff run.

It’s fine to build this deep BP in addition to getting another legit SP and a quality LF, but if this BP was built at the expense of those positions it was a mistake.
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Likeky thinking that if you can cover four or five innings with an immaculate pen the starters just need to be ok and not pitch deep. Number of guys and depth gets you more leeway to miss and suffer injury.

They won a WS that way so it probably is more foremost in AA's mind than it otherwise would or should be.

But Certainly less risk and outlay than giving 4.3 ERA guy in his 30s 6 year deals.

Your plan is probably Strider, Fried x 2, and lean on offense and pen for other three. It serves as well as anything if you suffer injury.
 
Enscheff said:
This is my criticism with the BP expenditures. How many 7th inning guys does a roster need? Why does a team need Jimenez, Johnson and Lopez? They aren’t all going to impact games in October, and seem like moves to win 100 games, not make a deep playoff run.

It’s fine to build this deep BP in addition to getting another legit SP and a quality LF, but if this BP was built at the expense of those positions it was a mistake.
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Agreed, but I find comfort that 1.) The Braves made it sound like payroll will go up significantly, 2.) The off-season has barely begun, and 3.) DOB is the only one speculating they may not get another starter (and usually when DOB speculates, he's wrong).

I mean the Braves even said it's their number 1 priority to get a legit starter (in no way does Lopez fit that definition) and only one has gone off the board... it's silly to think we are done on that front.
 
Southcack77 said:
Likeky thinking that if you can cover four or five innings with an immaculate pen the starters just need to be ok and not pitch deep. Number of guys and depth gets you more leeway to miss and suffer injury.

They won a WS that way so it probably is more foremost in AA's mind than it otherwise would or should be.

But Certainly less risk and outlay than giving 4.3 ERA guy in his 30s 6 year deals.

Your plan is probably Strider, Fried x 2, and lean on offense and pen for other three. It serves as well as anything if you suffer injury.
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A lock down pen can carry you in the post season. The D-Backs got to the WS by their pen pitching out of their minds.

Having a ton of options throughout the season should lessen the overall load on the starters as well.
 
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