Official 2024 Off-Season Thread!

This is my criticism with the BP expenditures. How many 7th inning guys does a roster need? Why does a team need Jimenez, Johnson and Lopez? They aren’t all going to impact games in October, and seem like moves to win 100 games, not make a deep playoff run.

It’s fine to build this deep BP in addition to getting another legit SP and a quality LF, but if this BP was built at the expense of those positions it was a mistake.

It also covers you a tad if all of these pitchers get deals that AA isn’t comfortable with. Unless you’re saying AA should pony up for one of them no matter the cost(s), then it’s always possible they all sign deals out of range.
 
Would the posting fee for either Japanese pitcher count towards the luxury tax, or only the contract? If it is only the contract then either of them seem like a cap savvy way to add to the rotation.
 
Would the posting fee for either Japanese pitcher count towards the luxury tax, or only the contract? If it is only the contract then either of them seem like a cap savvy way to add to the rotation.

I believe it is only the contract. The posting fee does not count towards luxury tax or payroll
 
Would the posting fee for either Japanese pitcher count towards the luxury tax, or only the contract? If it is only the contract then either of them seem like a cap savvy way to add to the rotation.

It doesn't count towards the LT.
 
Likeky thinking that if you can cover four or five innings with an immaculate pen the starters just need to be ok and not pitch deep. Number of guys and depth gets you more leeway to miss and suffer injury.

They won a WS that way so it probably is more foremost in AA's mind than it otherwise would or should be.

But Certainly less risk and outlay than giving 4.3 ERA guy in his 30s 6 year deals.

Your plan is probably Strider, Fried x 2, and lean on offense and pen for other three. It serves as well as anything if you suffer injury.

If the plan is Strider/Fried/BP then it doesn’t make any sense to add a #3 right now. If that’s the plan all available resources should be going towards LF now.
 
If the plan is Strider/Fried/BP then it doesn’t make any sense to add a #3 right now. If that’s the plan all available resources should be going towards LF now.

You still need regular season depth. The Braves were able to get away with it in 2023 due to having a huge lead most of the season. The Braves would have targeted a legit starter at the deadline had the race been closer. With a fresh season that still holds true imo.
 
What if the plan is Yamamoto, Strider, Fried + Morton, Elder, etc. in the playoffs, w/ Ohtani DH this year and DH+SP next year to replace a departing Fried? Ozuna to LF in this overpriced dream-world...
 
The FG article about the Lopez deal sums it up nicely:

“After you have a seventh-inning guy, two eighth-inning guys, and a ninth-inning guy, the next reliever up won’t be pitching high-leverage innings. It’s just math, and it’s easy math at that. There’s a reason that teams don’t operate that way: it’s a waste of resources, more or less.“

Now if AA still goes out and fixes LF, adds a #3, and fills the bench with MLB-caliber players (Wall is not), then all is well. But if we are watching Grissom in LF opening day, this was a mistake.
 
The FG article about the Lopez deal sums it up nicely:

“After you have a seventh-inning guy, two eighth-inning guys, and a ninth-inning guy, the next reliever up won’t be pitching high-leverage innings. It’s just math, and it’s easy math at that. There’s a reason that teams don’t operate that way: it’s a waste of resources, more or less.“

Now if AA still goes out and fixes LF, adds a #3, and fills the bench with MLB-caliber players (Wall is not), then all is well. But if we are watching Grissom in LF opening day, this was a mistake.


AA seems to be willing to punt at least 1 OF spot every year. I'm guessing because league OFers are easy to trade for at the deadline.

I'm still a little steamed that we gave away Nicky Lopez so easily. He was the perfect bench player for this team.
 
This thread is eerily reminiscent of last year… “After everything else AA has done, he’s surely not going to leave SS/LF unaddressed.”

Obviously I am not suggesting that we don’t need another starter, or that AA doesn’t think we do… just pointing out the similarities between what we were saying last year, and what we are talking about now.😀
 
This thread is eerily reminiscent of last year… “After everything else AA has done, he’s surely not going to leave SS/LF unaddressed.”

Obviously I am not suggesting that we don’t need another starter, or that AA doesn’t think we do… just pointing out the similarities between what we were saying last year, and what we are talking about now.��

I had the same thought
 
I kinda agree with Scheff. I mean, how many BP pieces does one team need. We have PJ/JJ/Iggy/Lopez/Minter, that's at least 5, plus you have Bummer/Matzek/with guys like Hernandez, Ynoa, Lee floating around. If having this expensive ass bullpen hurts us from signing a legit starter, AA screwed up big time.
 
This thread is eerily reminiscent of last year… “After everything else AA has done, he’s surely not going to leave SS/LF unaddressed.”

Obviously I am not suggesting that we don’t need another starter, or that AA doesn’t think we do… just pointing out the similarities between what we were saying last year, and what we are talking about now.��

I do think he'll address the SP, and grab a good one. But the bullpen was more than fine after the PJ and JJ re-signings. Lopez just seems like overkill.
 
I think AA is well aware that we cannot go into the season with Vaughn Grissom and Forrest Wall as the top options in LF. Loading up on power arms in the pen is not related to what he does about LF and the bench.
 
I think AA is well aware that we cannot go into the season with Vaughn Grissom and Forrest Wall as the top options in LF. Loading up on power arms in the pen is not related to what he does about LF and the bench.

Trade for some cheap to solve the issue. Example: Dylan Carlson
 
The optimist inside me thinks AA has a large budget set for all these needs, and once Nola went off the board he decided to spend it on Lopez plus a lesser SP.

So hopefully the LF/bench budget is unaffected by spending the pitching budget. It’s not like there’s some expensive LF option available, so anyone he signs is going to be cheap.
 
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