Official 2024 Off-Season Thread!

I love watching/listening to podcasts following the other team when we make a trade. The Mariners commentators HATE trading Kelenic. Hate is putting it mildly.
 
FG doesn't like this for Seattle either: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mariner...alary-dump-may-god-have-mercy-on-their-souls/

"When this news broke, I was at dinner with the FanGraphs delegation and made what I thought at the time was an uncharitable joke: That the Mariners had probably traded Kelenic for a quad-A pitcher without an out pitch, or a quad-A infielder with a high contact rate and no secondary offensive skills.
The truth turned out to be even more cruel."
 
Mariners beat reporter for the Seattle Times tweeted that Gonzales thought he would probably get flipped by the Braves, but not seeing where he wrote that in his original story on the trade.
 
I'm reading that the Braves can simply cut White and not have his contract count towards the luxury tax.

Is this true? Doesn't that allow rich teams to buy bad contracts in exchange for talent like Kelenic and not suffer any consequences with regards to the cap?

Seems like a terrible mechanic in terms of competition.
 
Enscheff said:
I'm reading that the Braves can simply cut White and not have his contract count towards the luxury tax.

Is this true? Doesn't that allow rich teams to buy bad contracts in exchange for talent like Kelenic and not suffer any consequences with regards to the cap?

Seems like a terrible mechanic in terms of competition.
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Who cares? The Braves have that Battery money now. They're not poor anymore.
 
Enscheff said:
I'm reading that the Braves can simply cut White and not have his contract count towards the luxury tax.

Is this true? Doesn't that allow rich teams to buy bad contracts in exchange for talent like Kelenic and not suffer any consequences with regards to the cap?

Seems like a terrible mechanic in terms of competition.
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"A team's Competitive Balance Tax figure is determined using the average annual value of each player's contract on the 40-man roster, plus any additional player benefits. "

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/competitive-balance-tax

It seems as if you can DFA someone and remove their salary from your luxury tax calculations.
 
I've seen Bowman mention a few different times in his columns over the past month that that he wouldn't be surprised to see Ozuna or Iglesias traded. Bowman is not on the inside of the Braves thinking by any means, but he does seem to get a tidbit dropped for him here or there. All this tells me is there is at least a chance the Braves could move those guys. Which is not something I'd really considered before.
 
striker42 said:
"A team's Competitive Balance Tax figure is determined using the average annual value of each player's contract on the 40-man roster, plus any additional player benefits. "

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/competitive-balance-tax

It seems as if you can DFA someone and remove their salary from your luxury tax calculations.
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Seems like an easy way for rich teams to buy prospects from teams trying to shed payroll. While I'm glad the Braves are doing it in this instance, it's not something I like for the sport as a whole.
 
thewupk said:
I'm pretty sure if you DFA someone they still count towards the luxury tax. White is a 4 million hit.
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This is accurate. Unless another team takes White's contract off our hands, that 4 million counts against our luxury tax. It is called retained money.

If this weren't true, Albert Pujols would have been released long before his contract was up with the Angels.

I think we are working with significantly more money than most here predicted.
 
SJ24 said:
This is accurate. Unless another team takes White's contract off our hands, that 4 million counts against our luxury tax. It is called retained money.

If this weren't true, Albert Pujols would have been released long before his contract was up with the Angels.

I think we are working with significantly more money than most here predicted.
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Yeah, I think MLBs website is wrong.
 
Our luxury tax number (by my and Enscheff's calculations) is currently 221.06.

The tax threshold is 237.

That is giving us 16 to work with for now.

Get rid of Gonzales and White and we're back up to 27.5.

An Ohtani deal will be around 50. We can trade Ozuna and get close to that.

Unless we are willing to surge past the cap for a year or two, which we might be.

Very exciting in any event that we're playing with the luxury tax threshold.
 
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