Official official offseason thread

zbhargrove said:
Im very proud of you. I think you’ve officially become the worst poster on the board
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You guys just expect "magic" every year. Way too sure of this organization. Nobody on this board wants to keep anybody unless they are willing to work for nothing.
 
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VirginiaBrave said:
You guys just expect "magic" every year. Way too sure of this organization.
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Biggest things that will help us are Acuna being healthy, Albies being back. Full years from Strider and Harris. We still need more pieces to add, but the roster as is, is very, very very good. Would have liked Dansby back but not for that much. The shift being gone is gonna help Olson out as well. Sucks Dansby is gone, he's a good player, hope AA does something with the extra money to add some guys before ST.
 
Heyward said:
Biggest things that will help us are Acuna being healthy, Albies being back. Full years from Strider and Harris. We still need more pieces to add, but the roster as is, is very, very very good. Would have liked Dansby back but not for that much. The shift being gone is gonna help Olson out as well. Sucks Dansby is gone, he's a good player, hope AA does something with the extra money to add some guys before ST.
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Nah… VA is certain that Acuña is not good
 
Good for Dansby but we all knew that he was gone for that kind of money..

If AA is gonna do anything now at SS or LF I’d expect it to be quickly…I don’t care what they've been saying about Grissom at SS and how Wash is raving about him, I just don’t see it…and we know what Arcia, Ozuna and Rosario are at this point
 
Russ2dollas said:
Dansby projected around 3 war with 105 wrc+. Can Grissom hit enough to make up for the drop on defense?
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That's the $25m question. Projection systems thus far seem to think so. A lot will depend on (a) if the Braves can help him improve his approach to up his EVs and LAs, at the expense of weak-contact, which he'll need to complement his very good strike-zone judgment, and (b) if Washington can get him to a consistently average-to-not-too-far-below-average spot with his defense. But if he can scratch that 111 wrc+ projection Steamer hung on him, while being adequate on defense, I think we should be ecstatic, because that's a 2-3 fwar player at league-minimum.
 
I dont see Grissom as even getting a whiff at SS for time being. Trade for Adames and maybe Burns just became more possible. A semi blockbuster may happen.
 
jpx7 said:
The team was very likely to downgrade from 2022 at SS whether they signed Swanson or not, since a 6+ fwar campaign was very unlikely. Even the trio above Swanson is no guarantee to hit that high-water mark from Swanson (though they're much more likely to hit it than he is).

The hope is that Grissom + Arcía can contribute 2-3 fwar, that Albies can return to being a 3-4 fwar player, and that Acuña can return to 5+ fwar levels; add in the upgrade at C, and you see the outlines of a plan to be better in 2023 than 2022. I do agree, though, that something needs to be done about LF, with Conforto representing the most obvious angle at this point, and Brantley still being an option (even if his ability to play LF is pretty suss).
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jp is spot on!! Dansby isn’t gonna duplicate last season so signing him to that type of deal isn’t giving us anymore than we can get from Grissom. What would Rosario cost from Cleveland?
 
VirginiaBrave said:
You guys just expect "magic" every year. Way too sure of this organization. Nobody on this board wants to keep anybody unless they are willing to work for nothing.
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Expecting Swanson to be worth that contract is the real "expecting magic". I've been an advocate of Dansby since the drop, even during his lean years, but he's simply not worth $4m more than Austin Riley. I'd much rather see the team renegotiate with Acuña for some extra years, at a higher AAV, than keep Dansby around for 7/$177, given Ronald Acuña Jr is actually the team's best player.
 
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With Dansby headed to Cubs, #Braves will continue looking for a shortstop on trade and free-agent markets (offerings are obviously very thin now on FA market) or they'll go with what they have in Vaughn Grissom -- or Orlando Arcia, should the kid fall on his face this spring.
 
jpx7 said:
Expecting Swanson to be worth that contract is the real "expecting magic". I've been an advocate of Dansby since the drop, even during his lean years, but he's simply not worth $4m more than Austin Riley. I'd much rather see the team renegotiate with Acuña for some extra years, at a higher AAV, than keep Dansby around for 7/$177, given Ronald Acuña Jr is actually the team's best player.
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I think/hope this will happen once there's 2-3 years left on it. I think with all the options, there's 6 left. Astros did this with Altuve, although the market isnt what it is now. I loved Dansby as well, but if he lives up to THAT deal, good luck to him.
 
Heyward said:
Umm with what prospects?
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My thoughts exactly. DoB (not most reliable source) says that he heard the Braves may not have even given Swanson an offer past the $100m they offered mid-summer. If that is the case, AA knew Bae wasn't coming back and would have moved accordingly. Not wait until Bae signs elsewhere and AA loses he negotiation advantage. Not to mention trading Contreras, Mueller, Tarnok.

With the system starved for prospects, its free agency or bust for an upgrade.
 
If AA is still GM Acuna, Albies, and Riley won't see the end of those long deals and that division title streak is over. Without some major move, this is a third-place team as of today.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
If AA is still GM Acuna, Albies, and Riley won't see the end of those long deals and that division title streak is over. Without some major move, this is a third-place team as of today.
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Braves still have the best roster in the division as of now lol.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
If AA is still GM Acuna, Albies, and Riley won't see the end of those long deals and that division title streak is over. Without some major move, this is a third-place team as of today.
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We are a 3rd place team right now? I’d take any bet you can muster up on that.
 
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