Official Offseason Thread

4/90 ouch. So much for hoping the Braves can get him on a 2 year deal.

We already thought 3/75 was possible, so adding another 1/15 isn’t that crazy. At least players are starting to make money again...silver lining I suppose.
 
salmagundy said:
Here's what Nightengale said--

"Whether or not there’s a formal offer on the table isn’t known. But the Nats are “aggressive” in their pursuit of Donaldson, per Jon Heyman of MLB Network (via Twitter). Indeed, the team is prepared to bid upwards of $90MM on a four-year term, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today (via Twitter)."


That's still under the $100 mil some are reporting that Josh will earn. I don't think the $90 mil is out of AA's comfort zone but the 4 years is. Reworking that to 3 year with 4th year option and large buy out(8-10 mil) would work out in AA's comfort zone.
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I'm sure he'd rather go three, but the market is the market, and he understands that. I don't like Arenado's price, other options seem wanting and Riley doesn't make enough contact. If it's me, I roll the dice and go the fourth year up to about $95M.

I mean, if he has three years of 4 WAR performance and sits on the DL for a fourth, we've gotten $96M of value. And I think he'll be better than that.
 
TheBravos said:
Nats signing JD at four years would be a win for us at least two of the four.
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Keep dreaming this stuff folks.

The NL will have the DH after the second year of a Donaldson contract, and unless AA suddenly completely reverses course and ignores the Holy Grail that so many folks are making the value charts out to be and backs up the truck for a 3B that is worlds better than the current rostered options, this franchise has NO SHOT at contending for a title while it controls Freddie Freeman unless Donaldson is re-signed.

Just sayin'.
 
TheBravos said:
Nats signing JD at four years would be a win for us at least two of the four.
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Keep dreaming this stuff folks.

The NL will have the DH after the second year of a Donaldson contract, and unless AA suddenly completely reverses course and ignores the Holy Grail that so many folks are making the value charts out to be and backs up the truck for a 3B that is worlds better than the current rostered options, this franchise has NO SHOT at contending for a title while it controls Freddie Freeman unless Donaldson is re-signed.

Just sayin'.
 
Heyward said:
Passan said on a podcast we were in on Rendon, or made a late run, and have had convos about Arenado. Our current cleanup hitter is gulp, TDA or Nick/Duvall. FF would arguably break Bonds walk record in a year if we dont get a cleanup hitter.

I dont know if AA signed pitchers and doesnt address the offense, like at all except for TDA.
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I’d be really curious to know what we offered Rendon. Arenado would be an absolute beast in our lineup for a long time. With us being in our window I’d love to make a run after him if we could get them to eat say 5 per year.
 
Heyward said:
Passan said on a podcast we were in on Rendon, or made a late run, and have had convos about Arenado. Our current cleanup hitter is gulp, TDA or Nick/Duvall. FF would arguably break Bonds walk record in a year if we dont get a cleanup hitter.

I dont know if AA signed pitchers and doesnt address the offense, like at all except for TDA.
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I’d be really curious to know what they offered Rendon. I’d love to get Arenado. He’d fit in our lineup perfect. If they would eat 5 per year I’d be all over it.
 
So glad we’re back up and running. Now JD can officially re-sign. I knew he was waiting for this site to be back online so we could discuss. Go ahead, AA, make your offer.
 
clvclv said:
Obviously.

The point is that Trout will be advancing into his 30s soon, and while everyone expects his production to continue to be awesome, he's human and faces an aging curve just like every player in the game. He's coming off of two seasons where he hasn't been completely healthy, and he's not 25 anymore. They need to start doing whatever it takes to surround him with better players - particularly Pitchers - in the next 2-3 seasons before it's realistic to expect his production to begin to slip...even if he remains the best player in the game.

You guys are the numbers "experts" - you tell us how much his production should be expected to decline over the next 3-4 years. The Angels will obviously need to replace that production as well. They haven't made the playoffs in forever with him producing at historic levels. If that production drops 5-10% between now and the time he turns 35, exactly how much more help do they need - especially before he advances into his late 30s?


As for Ohtani, re-read post #2461...

"If the Angels are serious about competing in a hurry, they ought to call Boston and offer Jo Adell for Price and Benintendi, then sign Donaldson and Ryu. J-Up would be off the books by the time Benintendi becomes a free-agent, and a Price, Otani, Ryu, Heaney rotation wouldn't be too bad especially if Price and Ryu are healthy. A Benintendi, Simmons, Trout, Donaldson, J-Up top 5 ought to score plenty of runs."
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Not sure why you quoted your own extremely terrible post. It hasn't aged well. That has got to be one of the worst trade proposals ever.
 
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I offer 3 years 75 million, with a 4th year option around 15 million. 22 million in 2020 and 26.5 the next 2. Buyout of 4 million brings the total value to 79 million and potentially 90 million to match Washington.
 
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Carp said:
I offer 3 years 75 million, with a 4th year option around 15 million. 22 million in 2020 and 26.5 the next 2. Buyout of 4 million brings the total value to 79 million and potentially 90 million took match Washington.
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The way Washington has been operating, their offer to him probably has them trying to get him to accept a defferal
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Okay, whoever unplugged the site, don’t do it again
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salmagundy said:
I'm not seeing any of latest posts or those made after my post at 7:18
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The site was hacked and we needed to fix it. That seems to have caused some issues in the database as well which I'm trying to fix.

In addition, the site has been moved to a new server and that required some down time as well.

We're working on it! :)
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Okay, whoever unplugged the site, don’t do it again
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salmagundy said:
I'm not seeing any of latest posts or those made after my post at 7:18
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The site was hacked and we needed to fix it. That seems to have caused some issues in the database as well which I'm trying to fix.

In addition, the site has been moved to a new server and that required some down time as well.

We're working on it! :)
 
Would really like Anderson from the Marlins.

I looks like a Yelich light to me from our matchups with the Marlins. He has an absolute cannon out there too.
 
djbaxter said:
The site was hacked and we needed to fix it. That seems to have caused some issues in the database as well which I'm trying to fix.

In addition, the site has been moved to a new server and that required some down time as well.

We're working on it! :)
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I really appreciate all of the work that is being done. The time and effort you guys are putting in is well respected. I had a post made but the site went back down before it was posted. Working on this site during this time of year is admirable. You should be spending quality time with your family and friends.

Thank you so much!!!
 
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