Official Offseason Thread

TheBravos said:
Not that I didn’t like them, but doesn’t hurt my feelings that Julio and DK are gone.

On the other hand...I’m not entirely comfortable with what we have if no other moves are made. I would really like to see us get Ryu....
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We'll obviously make some other moves, just with how quiet AA works, it's hard to predict what move/moves that is. Hard pass on Ryu given what he's looking for.
 
Not that it applies to Ryu, but I always wonder why we haven't dabled in the Asian market since Kawakami. Are the leftovers from the previous eras gunshy about signing semi-expensive Asian players or did we burn bridges with how we ended things with KK?
 
Carp said:
Not that it applies to Ryu, but I always wonder why we haven't dabled in the Asian market since Kawakami. Are the leftovers from the previous eras gunshy about signing semi-expensive Asian players or did we burn bridges with how we ended things with KK?
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I cannot imagine there being any hard feelings over how we handled Kawakami on the other side of the water. He was mediocre for a year, really bad for a year, a minor leaguer for a year, then went back to Japan and couldn't stay healthy for five seconds at a time until he finally retired. It's not as if the Braves didn't give him enough chances before demoting him.

Edit: and if I remember correctly, he was the signing in that offseason of bad pitching signings who had missed almost the entire season prior with a back problem.
 
Hudson2 said:
I think he’s gonna add a 4th year or go higher on the AAV for 3 years with a 4th year buy out option.
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I hope you’re right. It’s crazy how long this is taking. It should be rather simple and quick. But instead they’re sitting there playing a game of chicken.
 
Shaw made a ton of sense as a backup plan and using the JD money on an outfielder.

It's basically JD, KB or Ozuna or god knows who. AA is playing a game of chicken waiting this long, if he offers a 4th year, it's basically a done deal since most reporters have said JD prefers to stay with Atl.
 
tululush said:
AA is 100% all in on either JD or KB. Has to be, right?
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There are other options at 3b that approximate Shaw if AA pivots to someone like Ozuna, but yeah, it seems like one of those guys has to happen at this point.

My guess is AA knows the “buy it now” price for JD and is just waiting on final word on Bryant before pulling the trigger on either. I still think Bryant is the better play, but it can’t go down until the ruling is official.
 
Enscheff said:
There are other options at 3b that approximate Shaw if AA pivots to someone like Ozuna, but yeah, it seems like one of those guys has to happen at this point.

My guess is AA knows the “buy it now” price for JD and is just waiting on final word on Bryant before pulling the trigger on either. I still think Bryant is the better play, but it can’t go down until the ruling is official.
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Bryant is the best option IMO when looking at AA's standard operating procedure. Short term deals. Will be lots of OF options and maybe we will need to add pitching at the deadline.
 
Enscheff said:
There are other options at 3b that approximate Shaw if AA pivots to someone like Ozuna, but yeah, it seems like one of those guys has to happen at this point.

My guess is AA knows the “buy it now” price for JD and is just waiting on final word on Bryant before pulling the trigger on either. I still think Bryant is the better play, but it can’t go down until the ruling is official.
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That is risky. JD knows waiting around could hurt him too. If the gnats get tired of waiting and pull the trigger on plan B then that could hurt JD market a bit. I know other offers are out there but how long do you sit on a four year contract while the other suitor works on a trade.
 
Bryant being the best option is obviously dependent on the return package not containing contributors from the MLB roster, or Pache. If the return includes Anderson or Waters, it can’t contain much else.

Riley and 2 MiLB arms seems most reasonable with the quality of those arms being the main pain point. If Ender replaces Riley in the package a new hole in the roster just opened up in the OF, which seems a bit counterproductive, but not a show stopper.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
That is risky. JD knows waiting around could hurt him too. If the gnats get tired of waiting and pull the trigger on plan B then that could hurt JD market a bit. I know other offers are out there but how long do you sit on a four year contract while the other suitor works on a trade.
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Certainly a lot of moving parts and a decision could be forced at any time. It just appears as if JDs market is linked to the outcome of Bryant’s ruling.
 
Yeah I don’t see teams just waiting on KB to play out. Bc if JD signed and the Cubs decided not to trade Bryant then somebody is gonna get screwed. Either offer the 4th year for JD or just move on to the next option.
 
Hudson2 said:
Yeah I don’t see teams just waiting on KB to play out. Bc if JD signed and the Cubs decided not to trade Bryant then somebody is gonna get screwed. Either offer the 4th year for JD or just move on to the next option.
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Yea, that interpretation is a little too galaxy-brain for me. It has to assume that Bryant is Plan A, that Anthopoulos is cool leaving Donaldson’s right-of-refusal hanging until he’s forced to move to Plan B (ie Donaldson, in this scenario), and that Anthopoulos is comfortable watching potential Plans C-Z go off the board because he’s both so dialed-in on Bryant and so certain Donaldson will still be there if Bryant doesn’t work out. That seems like a lot to take for granite.
 
Hudson2 said:
Yeah I don’t see teams just waiting on KB to play out. Bc if JD signed and the Cubs decided not to trade Bryant then somebody is gonna get screwed. Either offer the 4th year for JD or just move on to the next option.
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There are plausible alternatives. For example, I imagine the Reds would be open to moving one of Suarez or Senzel.
 
It could be faulty logic to think JD would give the Braves final refusal rights while allowing to treat him as their Plan B to Bryant.
 
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