Official Offseason Thread

Southcack77 said:
Finding a trade that suitably addresses one of the Braves three major offensive holes with a player who makes the minimum or something relatively close drastically alters that Braves payroll bind.

I have trouble coming up with an offseason scenario that produces a deep lineup and gives them financial flexibility to do things with the rotation and bullpen without finding such a move.

I think a trade that moves Inciarte and prospects for someone like Senzel, or possibly Merrifield would open everything up.

that would give you about 52 million to address the other two offensive holes and that lets you sign a Grandal and an Ozuna or Garcia and do something substantial in the rotation and leave some money for a reliever or two.
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Like last off season, we are waiting for the inevitable big trade where AA cashes in significant prospect capital for a controllable MLB piece at an area of need.

That deal never materialized last year. The Dodgers have never pulled off such a deal, instead preferring to let top prospects like Verdugo accumulate 1400 PAs in AA/AAA rather than dealing him for MLB help.

WWTDD? That's probably what AA is going to do, just with a smaller budget.
 
Braves were in on JTR and who knows what else. The willingness is there IMO. But as always it depends on price.
 
thewupk said:
Braves were in on JTR and who knows what else. The willingness is there IMO. But as always it depends on price.
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AA will never make a deal just to land a certain player. It will always have to be at a price he is comfortable with. We can only speculate. But there is a certain logic to leveraging the farm system to go after players such as Lindor, Senzel, Boyd and Castillo. Obviously it has to work for the other team too.
 
Enscheff said:
Like last off season, we are waiting for the inevitable big trade where AA cashes in significant prospect capital for a controllable MLB piece at an area of need.

That deal never materialized last year. The Dodgers have never pulled off such a deal, instead preferring to let top prospects like Verdugo accumulate 1400 PAs in AA/AAA rather than dealing him for MLB help.

WWTDD? That's probably what AA is going to do, just with a smaller budget.
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We've been here before with the Cashman Yankees, the moneyball Red Sox, the Cubs, and now the Dodgers.

Big market teams that conduct their business intelligently have a huge advantage over teams that can't spend 200m to fill out rosters.

That tends to be balanced out somewhat by the realities that go along with fielding a perennial contender. The core ages, you give them raises so they won't leave, you trade prospects to make runs, you draft lower, players disappoint and you find yourself with an older expensive team and a farm system that needs work.

The bigger market teams seem to be able to turn the ship in a couple of years if they acknowledge the problem, though I wonder what the flattening out of international markets will do for that.
 
Super said:
i doubt it. can't imagine why they would.
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They have a very good third baseman signed to a long term contract (Suarez). Senzel did ok in center but he's not going to suited for that spot very long. So they might be open to a 2 for 1 deal where they get say Pache plus a major league ready pitching prospect. They do have one opening in their rotation.
 
It would be a mild surprise if a pitcher in his 30s who will probably get a 3 year deal is he first player the Braves ever give up draft pick to sign.
 
Enscheff said:
It would be a mild surprise if a pitcher in his 30s who will probably get a 3 year deal is he first player the Braves ever give up draft pick to sign.
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Maybe trying to go the JD route and scoop him up at a high salary for 1 or 2 years? That's the only thing I can think of. Not that MadBum isn't a pretty good upgrade from JT, but certainly someone like Hamels makes more sense, imo, as he brings basically the same thing MadBum does but will be considerably cheaper and doesn't come with the loss of a draft pick.
 
If plans include moving Newcomb back to rotation getting MadBum would make up pretty LH heavy. JD situation has to be settled before signing any QO player IMO.
 
Enscheff said:
It would be a mild surprise if a pitcher in his 30s who will probably get a 3 year deal is he first player the Braves ever give up draft pick to sign.
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You would think if they knew they were going to go after him in the offseason, why not trade for him last July, have him pitch for us in the postseason, and then avoid giving up a draft pick when we sign him after he has a qo attached to him? I suppose one could say the Giants wanted an arm an a leg and/or we didn't know they would attach a qo to him. But forfeiting a pick now to sign him goes against everything AA believes/has done. I suppose if we get a pick for Donaldson leaving, and then give up a pick to sign Bumgarner then it's essentially a wash.
 
Would be surprised if AA went after Bumgarner, i dont think hes washed but giving up a pick for him and a 4-5+ year deal doesnt seem like something i can see AA doing. But who knows?
 
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