Official Offseason Thread

Hudson2 said:
MLBtraderumors chat tried saying Fried and Pache would be acceptable for Bryant lol. I wouldn’t trade either of those guys in a deal let alone both.
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If we have to give up even one of those guys for Bryant, throw 4 years at JD and call it good, then sign Corey Dickerson or make Lindor your big trade splash.
 
clvclv said:
I keep going back to San Diego as a trade partner if AA gets to the point he decides to move Inciarte. They REALLY want a CF - with Gore ready at some point this year and Patino and Weathers probably ready next season, I wonder if he couldn't prey on Preller's desire to win now and fleece him out of Dinelson Lamet since they would still have Quantrill, Lucchesi, Morejon, and Baez as options for the back of their rotation. Adding Lamet would potentially make it easy to help keep costs down moving forward because you could let Hamels walk next winter and not have to use that $18 million to sign another SP in the event Wilson, Wright, or Anderson don't take that step forward. If they do, you let Folty walk too.
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Doesn't San Diego have Margot?
 
MadduxFanII said:
I don't know if the data backs this up, but I'm a little leery of how hitters with a mid-range BA/lots of walks/lots of homers/lots of strikeouts profile age.
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That's an interesting question. I know when a young guy this old guy skills profile, they very frequently age horribly (hello, Ryan Howard), but I'm not sure at what point it ceases to be an issue because you're just an old guy with old guy skills. My gut says this would be the case at 34, but I'm not at all certain.
 
Snowman said:
That's an interesting question. I know when a young guy this old guy skills profile, they very frequently age horribly (hello, Ryan Howard), but I'm not sure at what point it ceases to be an issue because you're just an old guy with old guy skills. My gut says this would be the case at 34, but I'm not at all certain.
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There is a range of outcomes to be sure. But the odds are not good.
 
NYCBrave said:
Doesn't San Diego have Margot?
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Yeah, not exactly sure what clv is trying to get at here. Margot isn't very good but he's a great defender and a below average hitter. Just like Ender except cheaper and younger with more upside. But as always, clv gonna clv
 
Why exactly did the Braves need another LHH cOF? Just so AA could sell low on Ender in a trade?

The Braves need an impact RHH, either at 3b or cOF. If that impact bat plays 3b, they need a RHH cOF at least good enough to serve as a platoon bat with Markakis/Inciarte. If that impact bats plays cOF, they need someone to hold down 3b, possibly a LHH that can be paired with Camargo and/or Riley.

Sign JD or trade for KB, whichever can be acquired for the smallest overpay. Sign someone like Souza. Play out the first 2-3 months of the season. Make required additions at the deadline. Go compete for a WS.
 
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Only way I’d use Ender in a trade is if we signed JD and then traded for Marte. Marte and Acuna could split time in CF.
 
Enscheff said:
Why exactly did the Braves need another LHH cOF? Just so AA could sell low on Ender in a trade?

The Braves need an impact RHH, either at 3b or cOF. If that impact bat plays 3b, they need a RHH cOF at least good enough to serve as a platoon bat with Markakis/Inciarte. If that impact bats plays cOF, they need someone to hold down 3b, possibly a LHH that can be paired with Camargo and/or Riley.

Sign JD or trade for KB, whichever can be acquired for the smallest overpay. Sign someone like Souza. Play out the first 2-3 months of the season. Make required additions at the deadline. Go compete for a WS.
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Who do we have that hits rh above league avg? FF, neck, acuna....

I could see us using a lh hitter
 
Heyward said:
I'm more concerned about what it would costs in prospects for Arenado than the money.
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Not much unless they are kicking in a significant amount of money. Maybe work out something where we assume his entire contract the next 2 years and then they kick in like 50 million (10 million per year) in the event he doesn't opt out.
 
Carp said:
Not much unless they are kicking in a significant amount of money. Maybe work out something where we assume his entire contract the next 2 years and then they kick in like 50 million (10 million per year) in the event he doesn't opt out.
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Pretty much this. If the Rox kick in $10M for every year Arenado is a Brave, suddenly that contract has enough surplus value to extract a significant prospect package from the Braves.

That’s also the only way it makes sense considering they weren’t serious players in Rendon for the exact same contract.
 
Carp said:
Not much unless they are kicking in a significant amount of money. Maybe work out something where we assume his entire contract the next 2 years and then they kick in like 50 million (10 million per year) in the event he doesn't opt out.
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That’s probably right. I’d still want them to eat money for the next 2 years even if he does opt out. He has no value otherwise. The opt out is completely in favor of the player. I’m not sure they just wanna dump Arenado so they’ll have to eat money regardless to get back any decent prospects.
 
Even though we are able to deduce things like Morosi’s latest tweet on this board before he writes them, the rest of the fan world probably can’t. Those people probably learn a lot when those writers tweet tidbits that seem obvious to us.
 
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