Official Offseason Thread

There are two types of people in the world.. non-athletic,110 lbs, internet warriors, who are doped up on adderral from the double weekend shifts and haven’t showered in 3 days.... and then there are the rest of us.
 
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Enscheff said:
We were talking about different types of breaking balls and how they are described objectively, not about how break is perceived in general.

I’m sorry if you weren’t following along.
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Buddy, it's one thing to be smug when the facts are with you, but you are just ignoring what I wrote and then being a dick about it. Literally the first thing I said was acknowledging and ceding the point about movement, but that your absolute claim that "there is no such thing as sharp break" was too broad due to the perceptive issue.

YOU, A SMUG:

There is no such thing as “late break”, “sharp break”, or “loopy break”. There is only magus force consistently acting on a pitch from the moment it leaves the hand, and causing movement away from its initial trajectory. All tracking data shows all pitches moving smoothly and consistent with constant forces applied to them.
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ME, ALSO A SMUG:

I think you are overselling this. "Sharp" or "late" break or whatever is absolutely a real thing, but it is about how a pitch and its spin appears to the naked eye, and thus how it affects a hitter's perception and ability to track it. It's just a different phenomenon than a change in linear direction due to magus force. It's not something something that is gonna show up in p/fx, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Back in my day, when we were being know-it-all stathead jerks, we at least bothered to read what we replied to. HARUMPH.

HARUMPH.
 
Metaphysicist said:
Buddy, it's one thing to be smug when the facts are with you, but you are just ignoring what I wrote and then being a dick about it. Literally the first thing I said was acknowledging and ceding the point about movement, but that your absolute claim that "there is no such thing as sharp break" was too broad due to the perceptive issue.

YOU, A SMUG:



ME, ALSO A SMUG:



Back in my day, when we were being know-it-all stathead jerks, we at least bothered to read what we replied to. HARUMPH.

HARUMPH.
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Lol wow. I was hoping I wouldn’t have to explain logical context of a discussion with you since you seemed pretty intelligent, but apparently I was wrong.

We were talking about different types of break. We were taking about “late” vs “loopy”. I literally wrote exactly that, and you even quoted it.

I agree the article you linked may explain why humans perceive pitches to move “sharp” or “late”. However, as someone else stated in this thread, that’s a quality of the hitter, not the pitcher. Therefore, the pitcher does not throw a pitch with “late” or “loopy” break.

Now by all means, continue your way down the argumentative path taken by luminaries like clvderp and gurglegarmel.
 
Garmel said:
I'm just going by what you said, bud. You tell me.
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You’ll have to remind me where I stated that hero. I spent countless hours conditioning, weight lifting and practicing with the entire team, coaching staff and trainers.

As always, it’s nice when you come out only to post about me haha.
 
Garmel said:
He had to first establish that he's better than you and how great he is. Dude's a trip.
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And you had to pop in to continue your crusade of white knighting for folks to protect them from me.

Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
 
Enscheff said:
And you had to pop in to continue your crusade of white knighting for folks to protect them from me.

Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
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It's even more pathetic for a grown man to behave like a child on a message board. The fact that you are trying to put me down for doing the right thing says a lot about you and it's not good. Seriously, why is it so hard for you to act like an adult?
 
Doing the right thing? You can’t be serious lol.

I come to a baseball message board to talk about baseball. Sometimes we argue about baseball, but the topic is always baseball.

You come here to talk about me, and you think you are acting like a hero. You literally only post about me on a baseball message board.

What a joke of a man.
 
Enscheff said:
Doing the right thing? You can’t be serious lol.

I come to a baseball message board to talk about baseball. Sometimes we argue about baseball, but the topic is always baseball.

You come here to talk about me, and you think you are acting like a hero. You literally only post about me on a baseball message board.

What a joke of a man.
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LOL. You'll do anything to change the subject of your childish behavior. If asking someone to behave like an adult and leave others alone is wrong, I don't want to be right. I know that being a sociopath these concepts are hard for you to understand but perhaps you'll get it someday.
 
Good grief people. I know yÂ’all love to hate him but pick something different than the physics of throwing a baseball to argue with cheff over. He has hundreds of years of the study of physics backing him up
 
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