Folks suggesting he will waive his opt out without significant compensation are the same people who think an opt out is good for the team.
it's not literally impossible as he's technically able to do it. there's just legitimately a zero percent chance he would. AT WORST he can opt out in 2 years and move on from there if he dislikes the situation that much. there's far, far too much value and security in his deal to voluntarily give it up. it will never, ever happen.
all some people are doing here is laying out why it's unlikely he'll be traded period unless Colorado kicks in cash for each year he's on his new team. that's something that is actually possible and worth discussing. him waiving his opt-out will never be a thing, and i severely doubt any team would even approach him about doing so.
So "it's not literally impossible" and "there's a 0% chance he would" are somehow the same thing? I was under the impression that a 0% chance was an absolute. Wouldn't that actually make it impossible?
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A decision in the Kris Bryant case is expected by the end of the month, possibly next week. Bryant has 2 years to go before free agency but he is grieving that, claiming it should be 1 year based on service time. Ruling will affect his trade value.
With all the noise going on, not only here, I feel a deal for Arenado is unlikely or at best less than 25%. However since this is a forum for discussion. Make the Bowman offer contingent on Colorado kicking in $35M, Arenado waiving his opt out, Braves extending his contract for 1 year at $35M.
With all the noise going on, not only here, I feel a deal for Arenado is unlikely or at best less than 25%. However since this is a forum for discussion. Make the Bowman offer contingent on Colorado kicking in $35M, Arenado waiving his opt out, Braves extending his contract for 1 year at $35M.
You moved the goal post. But now you are saying the Braves restructure his contract to add 1 year for 35 million which Col would pay. More plausible but still won’t ever happen.
is it more plausible tho? the Braves would still be on the hook for $32.5M until 2027. they could've tried to sign Rendon for that if they were cool with it. they're not.
More plausible in that you are giving NA more incentive to waive the opt out. 35 million more to play till 36 is enticing. So plausible from NA perspective. From a Braves standpoint. No. I can’t see them paying that much for one player through his age 35/36 season.
There is, theoretically, some combination of additional money and years we could offer that would induce Arenado to waive his opt-out. It's just not anything we would ever, under any circumstances, actually offer.
There is, theoretically, some combination of additional money and years we could offer that would induce Arenado to waive his opt-out. It's just not anything we would ever, under any circumstances, actually offer.
Not ever, under any circumstances - there's just a 0% chance.
MLB.com proposed 3 deals for Arenado, one from the Braves was Waters/Anderson/Ender/Cruz. That's way too much even without the opt out.
If they also pick up 40-50 million on the back end, that wouldn't be terrible
Maybe the Braves should offer more prospects to the cubs and ask KB to waive his grievances so he can play for the Braves.
You need to get your gun out then, What would be the big benefit for Arenado to waive out if he is playing for a contender at the time? More money? A big big gamble. More years?" Maybe but probably would reduce the AAV.