Offseason Hot Stove 2024-25 Thread

1 reason, among many others, why I don't foresee the Braves having any interest, is that Soto will undoubtedly require an opt out clause (or 2 or 3) and likely a full no trade clause.
 
Bonds literally holds the record for most walks of all time with 2,558… the next closest was Rickey Henderson at 2,190… not even close. He literally has the best eye of all time.
 
zbhargrove said:
Bonds literally holds the record for most walks of all time with 2,558… the next closest was Rickey Henderson at 2,190… not even close. He literally has the best eye of all time.
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In some sense, you are making the case for a big payday for Soto. Soto may not possess Bond's power and he may not have the same exemplary plate discipline, but Soto's skill set is probably a B+ to Bonds' A+. Bonds held onto that skill set until his late-30s and I don't see any reason why Soto won't hold on to his. Soto's going to get a wild contract. Only question will be length and possible opt-out. I wouldn't go beyond ten years and an AAV in the mid-40MM, but someone likely will.
 
zbhargrove said:
Bonds literally holds the record for most walks of all time with 2,558… the next closest was Rickey Henderson at 2,190… not even close. He literally has the best eye of all time.
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I might have missed it, but I don't think anyone said Bonds didn't have a great eye.

Also, one bit of contention to your point is that Bonds had 688 IBBs. Not that it disproves your point in any way, but he Henderson had more BBs if you subtract each player's IBBs.

Ted Williams is technically the GOAT in BB% though.
 
Carp said:
I might have missed it, but I don't think anyone said Bonds didn't have a great eye.

Also, one bit of contention to your point is that Bonds had 688 IBBs. Not that it disproves your point in any way, but he Henderson had more BBs if you subtract each player's IBBs.

Ted Williams is technically the GOAT in BB% though.
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Hudson said “Bonds may have been roided out but that didn’t help his pitch recognition at all.”

Sure sounds to me like he was inferring Bonds didn’t have as great of an eye. Wasn’t necessarily meaning he had the best of all time in a vacuum but that quote made it sound like he had just an average eye lol
 
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zbhargrove said:
Hudson said “Bonds may have been roided out but that didn’t help his pitch recognition at all.”

Sure sounds to me like he was inferring Bonds didn’t have as great of an eye. Wasn’t necessarily meaning he had the best of all time in a vacuum but that quote made it sound like he had just an average eye lol
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Nope. Bonds had an insane eye and it aged well. Soto’s will age well too. I was using Soto as a comp to Bonds as far as his plate discipline.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
You're ****ing nuts.
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Soto just turned 26, so the last 2-3 years would probably be a little bad but you'd be getting him for his prime years. He's also exactly the type of hitter we need. We have like a 2 percent chance of getting him but i'd do 12/550 VERY easily.
 
I think the back end of that deal is so far away it effectively doesn't matter.

I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I can't imagine they would choose to do it.
 
Heyward said:
Soto just turned 26, so the last 2-3 years would probably be a little bad but you'd be getting him for his prime years. He's also exactly the type of hitter we need. We have like a 2 percent chance of getting him but i'd do 12/550 VERY easily.
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12/550 is going to be too low. There are articles that say Cohen may offer 14/700+ to Soto. I think you are talking about a generational talent hitting FA which is very, very rare - I would bet Soto gets north of 600m and could go higher in all honesty. You have a perfect storm for a bidding war among the largest free spenders - Mets (2024 payroll was $356.2m; they only have $150-155m committed for 2025- huge spending capacity), Yankees, Blue Jays (offered Ohtani $700m too last winter and still have powder to burn), and Dodgers. Phillies are always a dark horse too.
 
Soto wants to win so I think the Jays are a no go for him. The Dodgers aren’t gonna spend that on him after what they did last year imo. The Mets and Yankees will be the 2 that go the hardest. I think the Braves are a dark horse. The last 4 years of that deal won’t matter bc all the contracts we have now will be off the books. I do think AA is stockpiling money and I don’t think it’s to reset the tax penalty.
 
Dont take what Borass says too seriously. When he says a team who will be a perennial winner he means who will pay his client the most money for the most years because his client is so great that any team that signs him will be a perennial winner. He truly believes signing his clients shows a team wants to win.
 
Every year I think how cool it would be to have the top free agent come to Atlanta. This year….not a chance. Not even going to entertain it or post a roster just to piss odd Enscheff….Soto is not coming to Atlanta
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
Every year I think how cool it would be to have the top free agent come to Atlanta. This year….not a chance. Not even going to entertain it or post a roster just to piss odd Enscheff….Soto is not coming to Atlanta
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He'll probably go to one of the NY teams but if there's a player to spend 3/4 of our offseason budget on, it's Soto.
 
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