Offseason Hot Stove 2024-25 Thread

msstate7 said:
Trade for bellinger.
Trade for Montgomery.
Sign a reliever.

^^^ my prediction
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It'll be something no ones talking about or is thinking about. Similar to Sale, but i didnt think he was even available last year.
 
jsebe10 said:
Yea fck that! San Fran will looking to unload that contract in about 3 years. Adames dumb ass might see $100m if that after federal and CA taxes.
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People misunderstand the tax thing a bit. Maybe things have changed, but I believe that only the revenue he earns in California is subject to the California income tax. In other words, all the home Giant games and any games played in Los Angeles or San Diego, That's well over half of the games and he is subject to the tax rates in the other states where he plays games, but I don't believe he would be on the hook for California taxes for games played in other states. Again, that's the way it used to be applied.
 
50PoundHead said:
People misunderstand the tax thing a bit. Maybe things have changed, but I believe that only the revenue he earns in California is subject to the California income tax. In other words, all the home Giant games and any games played in Los Angeles or San Diego, That's well over half of the games and he is subject to the tax rates in the other states where he plays games, but I don't believe he would be on the hook for California taxes for games played in other states. Again, that's the way it used to be applied.
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That is true only if the player is a nonresident. If he claims his main residence in the off-season, in say Minnesota, then he is taxed the California tax rate for 81 home games. If his residence is in California then all of it is taxed the California tax rate.

Likewise, Atlanta players are taxed at California rates for games they play on the road in California.

I work with the US Treasury and DOJ on cases like this all the time. It’s quite interesting. If you’re a nerd like me.

I saw a good article discussing this a few years ago when the whole Harper and Philly/LA contract was going on. I’ll see if I can find it
 
The Yankees have joined the Mets in offering Juan Soto in excess of $700 million, according to the New York Post’s Jon Heyman.
Heyman believes that the Mets’ offer, reported earlier at $730 million, is still the higher of the two offers, suggesting that the Yankees are at $710 million-$720 million. There’s also nothing yet to indicate the Blue Jays, Red Sox or Dodgers are out of the race. It sounds like things could be decided within the next couple of days.
 
The Dodgers aren’t gonna go that high after giving Ohtani that last year. Soto won’t choose the Blue Jays over the Yankees. I think it’ll be between the two NY teams. Cohen won’t go down easy.
 
Mad Dog Murph said:
That is true only if the player is a nonresident. If he claims his main residence in the off-season, in say Minnesota, then he is taxed the California tax rate for 81 home games. If his residence is in California then all of it is taxed the California tax rate.

Likewise, Atlanta players are taxed at California rates for games they play on the road in California.

I work with the US Treasury and DOJ on cases like this all the time. It’s quite interesting. If you’re a nerd like me.

I saw a good article discussing this a few years ago when the whole Harper and Philly/LA contract was going on. I’ll see if I can find it
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Correct. If Adames lives in California for 183 days, he's taxed as a California resident. I think that's why a lot of players establish residency in a low- or no-income tax state (military service members are often urged to do that). My ex-wife moved from Minnesota to Florida and established residence in Florida after she sold her company. Still owns houses in both states, but does not claim homestead status in Minnesota (so her property taxes are much higher in Minnesota, but she pays no income taxes on her earnings from investments.
 
The silver lining is that if the Braves were truly in it for Adames there’s absolutely no way they are trying to get under the first tax level. Any reasonable Adames contract would have put them over the cap, or so close to it there was no money for anything else.
 
I dont think they were ever in on Adames. Signing him for anything close to what he got would be like tying a cinder block to our foot to help us swim.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I dont think they were ever in on Adames. Signing him for anything close to what he got would be like tying a cinder block to our foot to help us swim.
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I think our "in on so-and-so" is a 1-year 30 million or whatever for a guy that get 6-7 years. So really, we're never in on any big guys. AA is gonna play it safe all the way through Acuna's deal.
 
I think we would have been in on him if the price was around 6 years 150 but even that's an overpay. Not for what he has done, but for what he will do. Which is what we should be paying him for. I don't know where AA is going to spend the money but it looks like a game of musical chairs and we are quickly running out of chairs. So many of the remaining options are bad. Pole Santander. Whoever signs him officially gets the dumbest GM award. I guess it will come from trades but I don't want to trade our 2 best chips in AJSS and Baldwin.
 
Per Justin Toscano and DOB, AA confirmed that the next luxury tax threshold won't stop them from making moves to make the team better.

"Alex Anthopoulous said if it'll make the team better -- they are in win-now mode -- the #Braves won't let potentially going over the $241M luxury tax stop stop them from making a move. Said it's not a big deterrent, that they're mindful of it but won't let it dictate decisions."
 
Money isn’t a problem for the Braves but they aren’t gonna spend it just for the sake of spending it which I’m glad for. AA has plenty of powder to get whoever so we’ll just set back and see what he does.
 
In other words, they’ll go over it if the perfect situation presents itself.

In other other words, we’re not going over it this off-season.
 
CyYoung31 said:
In other words, they’ll go over it if the perfect situation presents itself.

In other other words, we’re not going over it this off-season.
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Or ever. The Braves are on the back half of their contention window. The time is now to over spend if your going to do it. Who cares about bad contracts when your team is on the decline.
 
thewupk said:
Or ever. The Braves are on the back half of their contention window. The time is now to over spend if your going to do it. Who cares about bad contracts when your team is on the decline.
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I think AA is convinced he can be like the Dodgers and be a forever contender with 1/2 of their payroll.
 
The Braves are good at producing good young talent. We have some good pitchers coming, a lot of international talent that is super young, and Baldwin. Nobody saw Schwellenbach coming and here he is. Develop a couple more position players and the window keeps going. With our payroll the window won’t close anytime soon.
 
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