Offseason MiLB Thread (Some clips from KD Chat reposted here)

zbhargrove said:
Yes... Because he clearly said we've had no other great prospects since Dru and Chipper. Some members of this board completely exaggerate comments on this board just so they have something to belittle another poster for no reason.
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To be fair, his original point was to dispute this:

cajunrevenge said:
I am already on the Blake Rutherford bandwagon. If we can add him and Maitan next year that would be the best 2 hitting prospects we have had since Chipper and Andruw.
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Heyward was considered the top prospect in all of baseball at one point, so it probably is accurate to say that Rutherford or Maitan would not necessarily be the best prospects since Chipper/Andruw. Saying that they're the best amateur prospects we have brought in since then is possibly correct though, and the argument got nit picky in a hurry, though.
 
BA's Top 10 in 2010

1. Heyward
2. Strasburg
3. Stanton
4. Montero
5. Matusz
6. Jennings
7. Posey
8. Alvarez
9. Feliz
10. Santana
 
Soooo, I'm confused. Are we or aren't we supposed to be excited about the prospects? I for one am. I'll be catching a lot of them in the coming year including that stacked Rome team (potentially).
 
Deester11 said:
Soooo, I'm confused. Are we or aren't we supposed to be excited about the prospects? I for one am. I'll be catching a lot of them in the coming year including that stacked Rome team (potentially).
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Definitely excited. Rome will have a unusually large number of high ceiling prospects. None of them have the same ranking that Chipper, Andruw and Jason had at one point, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be excited about them.
 
50PoundHead said:
Hate to toss out the comparisons. Stanton and Heyward are clearly two vastly different players. My guess is Heyward's defense, which is important and should definitely be considered, grades out much higher than Stanton's.
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Yeah no one takes Heyward over Stanton
 
thewupk said:
Heyward won't cost as much either. I guess you could say him getting more value on defense makes him a better value salary wise?
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Depends on the length of the contract. Heyward's defensive value will start to slip at some point. Probably unlikely a guy Heyward's size is putting up +15 DRS in his early 30s.
 
auyushu said:
Depends on the length of the contract. Heyward's defensive value will start to slip at some point. Probably unlikely a guy Heyward's size is putting up +15 DRS in his early 30s.
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That's the same with most contracts though. Big time sluggers will start to fall off at that point too. The thing both Heyward and Stanton had going for them is they came up super early so their big contracts still cover a lot of their prime.
 
Updates from Kiley McDaniel yesterday on 2016 draft prospects . . .

Kiley McDaniel: And now to the other topic getting buzz in scouting circles right now. I’m in the final stages of wrapping up my calls/emails on the draft list and there’s been some shuffling from the off-the-cuff names I’ve been mentioning recently in chats/twitter.

Rutherford has slipped a few spots but is still in the top tier of players, which is probably 6-7 names. He’s the oldest of the top prep prospects and is a tweener defensively without much physical projection. So, while the now ability is really good, he still projects and a top 10 pick, and he may have looked the best over the summer of this group, you can see why some scouts may downgrade him a bit when projecting into the future.
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Kiley McDaniel: But Rutherford isn’t the buzzy thing right now, it’s Oklahoma righty Alec Hansen. I ranked him as the top guy in the class back in April http://www.fangraphs.com/bl… but he didn’t pitch anywhere this summer, so he slid a few spots due to a lack of information or uncertainty. He’s hitting the mound now for fall ball and is performing better than he did during the spring, when I said he was “basically has the same stuff as [2015 #4 overall pick] Dillon Tate (94-97, touch 99 mph, 65 or so slider, 55 or so changeup) but is 6’7/235 (Tate is 6’1/190)”

Hansen has been 94-99 and throwing more strikes this fall than he did last spring, so, in short he went from, let’s say 1 in April to maybe 5 during the summer to probably 1 or 2 right now, but obviously none of these silly rankings matter until closer to draft time.
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zbhargrove said:
That doesn't sound as exciting about Rutherford... Don't really want a guy with little future projection.
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Always the most difficult thing about top-tier high school prospects, especially kids who have played a lot of baseball. The range of physical maturity is fairly wide for kids between the ages of 15 and 18 and a kid who has matured physically and has solid skills can look all-world against that level of competition and then look pretty ordinary after his cohort catches up in terms of strength.
 
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