Olivera

.218, .240, .310

I'm expecting him to completely face plant. I'm not impressed by his swing, his plate discipline, or his pitch recognition. I expect he'll end back up in AAA where he'll still struggle.

There's a reason the Dodgers bailed on him quickly after getting a close look at him.
 
.218, .240, .310

I'm expecting him to completely face plant. I'm not impressed by his swing, his plate discipline, or his pitch recognition. I expect he'll end back up in AAA where he'll still struggle.

There's a reason the Dodgers bailed on him quickly after getting a close look at him.

Yeah we shipped em Alex Wood and our most advanced position prospect at the time.
 
Lol. You're trying to get people to derail this thread aren't you?

Someone felt the reason he was moved because of his talent or lack there of, ignoring the bigger reason of we shipped them a load of talent.

But no, I'm not.
 
Here's an off-the-wall prediction. I am saying that, beginning with the 2016 season, Withrow is going to have a better MLB career than Wood.

You can have your thread back now.

My one lingering thought about Olivera is this: how could they have been so wrong about this guy with such an overpayment to the Dodgers when they have been (apparently) so dead-on correct about the other teams' talent in the other deals? It seems so out of whack in so many ways. Perhaps they saw something in Wood's motion or velocity that scared them. Clearly on Peraza, it was about getting his maximum value before his stock slipped too much. That much, they got right.
 
If anyone ever wonders why teams are hesitant to call up players late in season, this thread is reason number one.
 
.218, .240, .310

I'm expecting him to completely face plant. I'm not impressed by his swing, his plate discipline, or his pitch recognition. I expect he'll end back up in AAA where he'll still struggle.

There's a reason the Dodgers bailed on him quickly after getting a close look at him.

The lowest ops in all of baseball last season was .587 and you have Olivera being worst than that by almost 40 points.
 
I'm going to go with .290/.360/.450 and 3 WAR.

He's in the prime of his career and a lot of really smart baseball people I follow love his bat.
 
Here's an off-the-wall prediction. I am saying that, beginning with the 2016 season, Withrow is going to have a better MLB career than Wood.

You can have your thread back now.

My one lingering thought about Olivera is this: how could they have been so wrong about this guy with such an overpayment to the Dodgers when they have been (apparently) so dead-on correct about the other teams' talent in the other deals? It seems so out of whack in so many ways. Perhaps they saw something in Wood's motion or velocity that scared them. Clearly on Peraza, it was about getting his maximum value before his stock slipped too much. That much, they got right.

All of the scouts cannot be as wrong on this guy as you all claim.

280/350/450

Those guys know what they are talking about. With a healthy off-season and the chance to work on a few things with some Braves coaches, I think he will surprise.
 
The lowest ops in all of baseball last season was .587 and you have Olivera being worst than that by almost 40 points.

That's qualifying OPS. When a guy puts up an OPS of .560, he's probably not going to end the season with enough ABs to qualify.

Here are some examples:

C Bethancourt- .515 in 155 ABs

C McGehee- .538 in 237 ABs

O Infante- .552 in 440 ABs

I don't predict Olivera to play enough to qualify. If he's this bad he'll get sent down or benched.
 
That's qualifying OPS. When a guy puts up an OPS of .560, he's probably not going to end the season with enough ABs to qualify.

Here are some examples:

C Bethancourt- .515 in 155 ABs

C McGehee- .538 in 237 ABs

O Infante- .552 in 440 ABs

I don't predict Olivera to play enough to qualify. If he's this bad he'll get sent down or benched.

It's more likely he wins the batting title than it is he plays as bad as you claim. He has considerably more skills than Betancourt, and his performance last year with us us better than anything Betancourt has ever done in thr majors over a similar span. Even if he's another Francoeur, Frenchy has still been a useful major league player over his career.
 
It's more likely he wins the batting title than it is he plays as bad as you claim. He has considerably more skills than Betancourt, and his performance last year with us us better than anything Betancourt has ever done in thr majors over a similar span. Even if he's another Francoeur, Frenchy has still been a useful major league player over his career.

I'll admit my prediction is on the super pessimistic end. What I actually expect is pretty much what Dalyn posted. But since that was taken I went really low end with my prediction.

I expect him to be pretty bad. This guy couldn't hit winter league pitching after all. He might not be epically bad but I'll be surprised if he becomes a contributor.
 
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