Parkland School Shooting

thethe said:
It's been very clear what the left is about. They use the sheep like goldy to get their objectives met. They don't care about social justic. They don't care about black people. They care about accumulating power.
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lol
 
Beau Willimon
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Mar 31

The Parkland students are standing up to the @NRA and @TedNugent can’t handle it.

Your guns don’t make you a man, Ted.

But your rhetoric does make you an irrelevant, heartless dinosaur.

These kids are braver that you’ve ever been or ever will be.
 
of the puzzling things in this thread ?

The most vocal have neither children or AR-15 's
and at the most a .22 rifle or small handgun.
I would venture the two most vocal have never fired a weapon or shot an animal with one let alone been military to witness the devastation of weaponry
And, have no interest vested or otherwise in the NRA

The other is, I would think the NRA would be leading the movement to eliminate these weapons from the firearm catalogue, rather than fight to the death, and it will be their death, to secure their place in society
 
If the left wants to make David Hogg the pawn of their motives, I think it's a mistake.

He's proven himself to be incapable of being rational, he never uses facts, he has contradicted himself numerous times, he has been excessively vulgar against anyone against him, and proven he is incapable of taking any criticism.

So basically, he's your modern day leftist.

The education system has done its job
 
the kid is 17, hell you ain't that much older and display those same tendencies

The difference ?
/you got a tax cut
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meaning you were actually paid to spout this nonsense and keep up with the comings and goings of high school kids
Some life you got there Sparky
 
lol

i love that 57 equates getting taxed less as "being paid"

i'd hate to live a life where government is my master
 
I'd hate to live a life where I am on record criticizing the responses of high school shooting survivors.

For war veterans they have a phrase --- I just can't think of it now ---- maybe you will help me..
Starts with a P. Capital "P"
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yes, paid
 
57Brave said:
I'd hate to live a life where I am on record criticizing the responses of high school shooting survivors.
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I'm curious... when these people put themselves in the public spotlight, when they go on every news network that will have them, when they hold town halls, when they organizes protests, when they tweet 100 times a day, are they not allow to be criticized?

David Hogg can say "**** the NRA" and "**** Dana Lorech" and we can't question that? He can say the governor has blood on his hands and Rubio is a child killer and that can't be criticized? He can praise the work of the Browand sheriff dept and that can't be criticized? He can publicly demand answers why he wasn't admitted into certain schools and that can't be criticized? He goes after anybody that criticizes him (which has nothing to do with gun control) and that can't be criticezed?

The kid has decided he wants to be an activist. Good for him. But activism has consequences and criticism. He says extremely controversial things (and often times, just flat out wrong things), and then he and you hide behind the shield of a survivor.

The sad thing is, the left is letting a 17 year old dictate its policies and agenda... So people who support our constitution have to fight back... and then y'all cry "attacking children"

It's pretty pathetic.

The rest of your post is the usual nonsense. I can't believe someone as old as you hasn't figured out how to make coherent arguments to this day
 
Do you think the left is letting this kid do anything? The power brokers are using him to drive their agenda.
 
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Here's another survivor that you don't see on TV everywhere because he doesn't think guns are the issue.

Oh, and several members of the media have attacked him for his views.

So 57 is sure to give us a tweet about how low the democratic party is for insulting a high schooler.

Right?
 
sturg33 said:
Oh trust me I know he is being used as a political tool, and he's too dumb to realize it.
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And the 57s/goldys of the world are falling for it hook line and sinker while helping push this idea you can't question him.
 
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This person wants to deny people constitutional rights but thinks this crosses a line.

And for the record, I agree with her on this. But it will be just as effective as raising gun ages, etc
 
sturg33 said:
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Here's another survivor that you don't see on TV everywhere because he doesn't think guns are the issue.

Oh, and several members of the media have attacked him for his views.

So 57 is sure to give us a tweet about how low the democratic party is for insulting a high schooler.

Right?
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But...we do see him on tv. And all over Twitter. And here. But you're suggesting that his voice being amplified by certain segments of the media is not equivalent to what's happening with kids on the other side of the issue? That he's not being "used," as you have it, for his convenient providing of a counter-narrative?

There were analogs to this during the massive student protests over the Vietnam War. Pro-war student groups that demonstrated, protested, did media, etc. You ever wonder why we don't hear so much about them now? I suppose it's because voices fighting for the status quo tend not to age as well as voices raised against it.
 
To the best of my knowledge, he hasn't been invited to speak on CNN... but I could be wrong.

Meanwhile, I don't really care about this kid just pointing out the hypocrisy of attention granted to the survivors based on their political agenda.
 
sturg33 said:
To the best of my knowledge, he hasn't been invited to speak on CNN... but I could be wrong.

Meanwhile, I don't really care about this kid just pointing out the hypocrisy of attention granted to the survivors based on their political agenda.
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Coulda fooled me, tbh.
 
Julio3000 said:
Coulda fooled me, tbh.
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Well my preference would be to stop obsessing over the opinions of teenagers.

If we can't get that, my preference would be to also hear from the teenagers who still support our constitution.

But frankly, getting less of this Hogg kid would be a welcomed gift
 
Speaking of the constitution, it seems like you kinda punted on the constitutionality of age restrictions and other regulation. You put the onus on me to explain why it was constitutional, I cited some case law and didn't get any reply.

Tangentially, I wonder if you spent any time perusing the links on the Harvard Scool of Public Health compendium that I linked, as you are interested in a data-based discussion.
 
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