Political Conspiracy Theories.

57Brave said:
Well Z , let me rephrase. "There are known - knowns and there are unknown - knowns" :)

A hint to some , Congresspeople (federal,state and local) do not read bills. Their staff reads bills and summarizes their content.
That is why we pay them so much. Our Congresspeople raise money, apear on posters and go on Sunday morning talk shows. Unless of course you name is Elizabeth Warren
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or the president.
 
And one more thing, don't say that politicians aren't smart enough. Much of congress held jobs that would require higher education and reading. Lawyers, educators, accountants, Medical Professionals, etc. Sure there are some people who didn't require advanced education liek career politicians, buisiness people, nonprofit workers, etc. But the majority are educated, many of them super educated.
 
More likely,smoke and mirrors.I guarantee this crap was worked out between obama and putin months ago.they agree,putin gets his naval base back,obama goes through the usual sanctions and put ons while secretly putin has agreed to leave the rest of the ukraine alone meanwhile obama with his brilliant 11th hour foreign policy defuses the crisis and becomes the hero as the sanctions are lifted and gas prices come down .10 cents a gallon and obamas approval ratings skyrocket.nothing is as it seems on the surface with this s.o.b..And for the record this isn't some rush limbaugh theory.This was derived because I pay attention and this has been his game plan from day one.
 
If Bush sent the Seals to kill Bin Laden and was successful, then he's a great commander in chief and great leader.

Obama sends the seals to kill Bin Laden, and he deserves absolutely no credit for anything.
 
AerchAngel said:
But people KNEW what was in the Patriot Act. There is a big difference and last I heard we aren't having issues with the Patriot Act, we just think it is a stupid Act, both sides do. Unlike Obamination Care, no one knew what was in it and because of that we are still having issues. Do you think if they had any common sense, wait, they don't, to try and dissect it first and bring it out when there is less kinks instead of this gaggle of a mess?

Common sense....a foreign word to Pelosi and Reid.
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How certain are you that people knew what was in it. This was a law passed less than a month after 9/11. The same people that passed it are now complaining about its usage.
 
KeithLockhart said:
How certain are you that people knew what was in it. This was a law passed less than a month after 9/11. The same people that passed it are now complaining about its usage.
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Ron Paul took the floor and claimed that nobody had read it. He said if it was appropriately named the "Burn the 4th amendment Act" then it never would have had the public support. Funny how dumb the public is with simple naming.

The "Affordable" Care Act.

LOL
 
sturg33 said:
Sure. If Bin Laden is dead the people would be satisfied and the war mongering would have to stop.

Kind of like what happened after we "officially" killed him.
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Genuinely curious, what makes you believe, specifically, that he was killed during GWB's years?
 
A lot of republicans don't even believe in climate change, or evolution. Common sense?
I think if repubs were superior to dems in the way of common sense, they'd have been able to win 2012's election.
 
yeezus said:
Genuinely curious, what makes you believe, specifically, that he was killed during GWB's years?
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I don't know if he was killed during the GWB admin. I'm not even sure we killed him. I just think he's been dead.

The dude was on dialysis running aorund in the deserts in the late 90's and early 2000's. He'd been in and out of hospitals several times (including US hospitals). The "confession" tape was proven to be a fraud. There was no evidence that he was alive, and even less evidence that we actually killed him.
 
sturg33 said:
Individual mandate is terrible no matter what the outcome of results will be.

Which I also expect to be terrible
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Only siths deal in absolutes.
Too simplistic and narrow-minded. There is a reason it had to be mandated.
 
sturg33 said:
I don't know if he was killed during the GWB admin. I'm not even sure we killed him. I just think he's been dead.

The dude was on dialysis running aorund in the deserts in the late 90's and early 2000's. He'd been in and out of hospitals several times (including US hospitals). The "confession" tape was proven to be a fraud. There was no evidence that he was alive, and even less evidence that we actually killed him.
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There was also no evidence he was dead.
I really don't know much about it. Just curious what the basis for the thought was.
 
yeezus said:
Only siths deal in absolutes.
Too simplistic and narrow-minded. There is a reason it had to be mandated.
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The idea of the mandate is was to force the US citizens (the "Land of the Free") to buy health insurance...

To date, only 2-3% have done so. In the process, premiums have gone up for almost everybody else to help pay for the program.

Only an idiot doesn't realize how stupid this was
 
yeezus said:
Genuinely curious, what makes you believe, specifically, that he was killed during GWB's years?
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Crypt Keeper was keeping him animated within his fortress.

Of course I think they actually killed him under Obama's watch but I like to point out the hypocrisy in this thread from both sides. To me, you both suck and continue to suck until we get some common sense in our administration. Can't do anything about our moronic president, just hope he doesn't damage too much. Billary should be able to clean up some of this mess and bring some sort of sense especially if she listens to Slick Willie. No, the Republicans only hope is being ridiculed and barbecued by his own kind so they aren't winning in 2016. I hope it is Billary and a Republican lead congress, just like her husband, match made in heaven.

First step is happening soon, getting all those lemmings/sheep out of the Senate.
 
sturg33 said:
The idea of the mandate is was to force the US citizens (the "Land of the Free") to buy health insurance...

To date, only 2-3% have done so. In the process, premiums have gone up for almost everybody else to help pay for the program.

Only an idiot doesn't realize how stupid this was
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LOL yeah, we're not a free country.
Jesus christ.
 
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