Political Correctness

mqt said:
Please explain how it is more applicable in this case than in any of the others where you've complained about people not having free speech in the workplace, such as news outlets.
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It's not even close to the same. The partnership of owners of the NFL organizations are losing money because their employees are protesting while working. This is a business decision from their perspective
 
thethe said:
It's not even close to the same. The partnership of owners of the NFL organizations are losing money because their employees are protesting while working. This is a business decision from their perspective
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If a writer says something inflammatory that might upset the publication's viewership, is it not a business decision for that publication to not continue to let that person write for them?
 
mqt said:
If a writer says something inflammatory that might upset the publication's viewership, is it not a business decision for that publication to not continue to let that person write for them?
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Fair argument but you want to now characterize news organizations as entertainment providers?
 
mqt said:
If a writer says something inflammatory that might upset the publication's viewership, is it not a business decision for that publication to not continue to let that person write for them?
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Actually if the writer is saying it off the clock then it's a free speech issue.

So actually it's not the same thing
 
thethe said:
Actually if the writer is saying it off the clock then it's a free speech issue.

So actually it's not the same thing
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It's not, though. For one thing, being in that line of work means maintaining a social media presence in this day and age. Further, it still in no way impinges upon one's constitutional right to free speech. As with these publications, I agree that the NFL has every right to do this as a business. I just think it's an exceptionally ****ty decision by the NFL, and find it curious that one can both decry what has happened to some of the writers we've discussed and be perfectly okay with this.
 
mqt said:
It's not, though. For one thing, being in that line of work means maintaining a social media presence in this day and age. Further, it still in no way impinges upon one's constitutional right to free speech. As with these publications, I agree that the NFL has every right to do this as a business. I just think it's an exceptionally ****ty decision by the NFL, and find it curious that one can both decry what has happened to some of the writers we've discussed and be perfectly okay with this.
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Nobody is preventing NFL players from protesting outside of the office.
 
thethe said:
Nobody is preventing NFL players from protesting outside of the office.
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I realize I engaged on the Twitter part, but you realize the other part of your argument before concerned articles written by the ostracized writers, right?
 
mqt said:
I realize I engaged on the Twitter part, but you realize the other part of your argument before concerned articles written by the ostracized writers, right?
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That was a body of work prior to their current employer making the decision to fire them.
 
The NFL, like the other ****ty orgs in this thread, has every right to do this, and like all the other ****ty orgs, they are incredibly stupid to do so
 
sturg33 said:
The NFL, like the other ****ty orgs in this thread, has every right to do this, and like all the other ****ty orgs, they are incredibly stupid to do so
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I'm just not understanding how this is a free speech issue. If any worker protested while on the clock that pushed business away from the employer they would be fired.
 
I love how this argument has shifted within the last few days from originally it was treasonous unpatriotic and disrespectful to the military and flag to now everywhere on social media the right wing hard-on talking points are:

"Do it on your own time! Not on the clock!"
"Protest somewhere else. Fans dont pay to watch you protest"

Imagine how much of a snowflake you have to be, to see grown men locked at arms kneeling for 3 minutes and exercising their right to peacefully and silently protest.
 
So when are the NFL players on clock exactly?

During 60 minutes of regulation?
When they put the jerseys on?
They're salary so they're on clock technically all the time. So I guess they arent allowed to use their status as celebrity to go to rallies or events and protest either because they're "overpaid athletes" and not like the real men and women of America.
 
Forever Fredi said:
I love how this argument has shifted within the last few days from originally it was treasonous unpatriotic and disrespectful to the military and flag to now everywhere on social media the right wing hard-on talking points are:

"Do it on your own time! Not on the clock!"
"Protest somewhere else. Fans dont pay to watch you protest"

Imagine how much of a snowflake you have to be, to see grown men locked at arms kneeling for 3 minutes and exercising their right to peacefully and silently protest.
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You do not have the right to protest while working for a non-governmental organization.
 
The NFL has the right to do this. People have the right to boycott the NFL for this rule just as they had the right to do so when they were protesting the anthem. In the end it is kind of silly to get triggered by someone kneeling instead of standing. Our government/society is way more disrespectful of the military for what happens to a lot of veterans after they come home.
 
you have a point but many average joes have been fired for their viewpoints outside of their office. That woman the flipped off trumps motorcade got fired. People have been fired for saying racial things outside of their workplace.
 
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