Possible SP target... maybe

Runnin said:
Justin Verlander anyone?

The Braves are looking to add starting pitching this offseason and Verlander makes perfect sense for them with the ties he has there.

The Braves' new pitching coach, Chuck Hernandez, was also Verlander's pitching coach from 2006 to 2008. During that span, Verlander won AL Rookie of the Year, became an All-Star and won plenty of games for the Tigers.

Not to mention Verlander also had a pretty good bounce back season this past year, in which he went 16-9 with a 3.04 ERA.
Click to expand...

I read the link. It hypothesizes Allard and Toussaint.

I believe the correct term for this is "talking out your ass."
 
Oklahomabrave said:
I'd be fine with Verlander but not for anything close to that.
Click to expand...

The main thing we know on the record is that the Tigers want to cut payroll. The Braves can afford to take Verlander's entire salary, but the flip side is that they would not have to trade a king's ransom to take it off Detroit's hands. Maybe something like Cabrera, Povse and Pache. If a bigger deal was in order, perhaps we'd have to take another bad contract as well, like we did with Quentin. I'd be happy to take J.D. Martinez's seven-digit salary off their hands.
 
clvclv said:
Then why not just read the thread first? If you had time to reply, surely you had time to read the OP.

Really not trying to start an argument, but as Enscheff (of all people) mentions, this is a fan forum after all - surely this isn't your main source of Braves' information.
Click to expand...

Well, I used to be a moderator on a hockey website, which was fan-driven. Obivously it generated much more traffic than here. This was during the time when fantasy discussion got commingled with actual rumors. Opinion was split on usefulness, but nobody was attempting to silence anybody if there were enough other members interested in engaging. At the same time, there were those who were seeking different types of discussions and didn't want to click a topic that had an inaccurate title with topic that wasn't of specific interest.

Simple solution: we all agreed that if it was a rumor, post rumor in the title (with linked source). If it was a proposal, post that it was a proposal. Apparently, somebody at least somewhat agreed, as the words, "...maybe" were tacked on. It's not to rain on anybody's parade. Have all the trade proposal threads you want. Just give an accurate thread title for people who don't want to read the thread. Assuming that there are topics that you choose not to want to read? You would prefer to know the contents. Right?
 
Knucksie said:
Well, I used to be a moderator on a hockey website, which was fan-driven. Obivously it generated much more traffic than here. This was during the time when fantasy discussion got commingled with actual rumors. Opinion was split on usefulness, but nobody was attempting to silence anybody if there were enough other members interested in engaging. At the same time, there were those who were seeking different types of discussions and didn't want to click a topic that had an inaccurate title with topic that wasn't of specific interest.

Simple solution: we all agreed that if it was a rumor, post rumor in the title (with linked source). If it was a proposal, post that it was a proposal. Apparently, somebody at least somewhat agreed, as the words, "...maybe" were tacked on. It's not to rain on anybody's parade. Have all the trade proposal threads you want. Just give an accurate thread title for people who don't want to read the thread. Assuming that there are topics that you choose not to want to read? You would prefer to know the contents. Right?
Click to expand...

Hockey sucks.
 
Knucksie said:
Well, I used to be a moderator on a hockey website, which was fan-driven. Obivously it generated much more traffic than here. This was during the time when fantasy discussion got commingled with actual rumors. Opinion was split on usefulness, but nobody was attempting to silence anybody if there were enough other members interested in engaging. At the same time, there were those who were seeking different types of discussions and didn't want to click a topic that had an inaccurate title with topic that wasn't of specific interest.

Simple solution: we all agreed that if it was a rumor, post rumor in the title (with linked source). If it was a proposal, post that it was a proposal. Apparently, somebody at least somewhat agreed, as the words, "...maybe" were tacked on. It's not to rain on anybody's parade. Have all the trade proposal threads you want. Just give an accurate thread title for people who don't want to read the thread. Assuming that there are topics that you choose not to want to read? You would prefer to know the contents. Right?
Click to expand...

I read the title before I clicked and once I was in the thread it was what I thought it was. When you were a moderator, did you guys also try to keep people on topic of what the thread was? The reason I ask is because I read a reply to the thread, then I read this crap about if the title was properly worded or not. Who cares to be honest! I knew exactly what I was getting by reading the title. Why didn't you?

So what do ya say, can we just talk some baseball stuff and get through the cold (maybe it will be one day) winter till spring training starts?
 
So my thoughts on Santana are based on the FO saying at some point that they had their eye on some pitchers that use to be with the Braves. Also, it looks like the Twins want to dump him and he did pretty good when he was here. I don't think I heard anything bad about him when he was here.
 
Lenny said:
I read the title before I clicked and once I was in the thread it was what I thought it was. When you were a moderator, did you guys also try to keep people on topic of what the thread was? The reason I ask is because I read a reply to the thread, then I read this crap about if the title was properly worded or not. Who cares to be honest! I knew exactly what I was getting by reading the title. Why didn't you?

So what do ya say, can we just talk some baseball stuff and get through the cold (maybe it will be one day) winter till spring training starts?
Click to expand...

At that time, there wasn't usually a lot of need for mod involvement. With the time leading up, quite a bit of the writing was professional level. If things got off track, it was at descretion to interject. Generally, everyone had at least played the game (in some form), understood the sport and its history, was interested in the business aspects and could provide insightful comments on the action. If a fan from a rival team attempted to troll, it was done "at risk" and he'd usually exit the room bloodied and battered. :D

Even though we're talking 12-15 years ago, the landscape has changed. These millenial-types are hypersenstive and easily offended, have zero concept of the history, never played but spend hours on end with video games, endlessly recycle old jokes and don't perceive fantasy leagues as the joke that they always were. Probably left out other attributes but it's easy to spot the same patterns.
 
I think verlander is the perfect target. If we can add a legitimate top of the rotation workhorse I honestly think we may be able to compete for a wild card. Although the allard and touki idea is crazy. If we eat the entire contract I think some combination from the group of Mallex, Wisler, Blair can get him

We've shed so much salary over the years I think we should highly consider taking on the full contract in order to give up less
 
nsacpi said:
You left out have way too much time on their hands and live in their parents' basement.
Click to expand...

The first part speaks for itself for those who are on the board all the time with ridiculous post counts. The second one is too cliché, like those endlessly recycled jokes. Does recall fond memories of Perfect Cell from the Scout board says though.
 
Enscheff said:
We should all be running all thread titles past Knucksie before posting to ensure they are proper summations of the content. It will prevent folks who are wasting time on a fan forum from wasting an additional 10 seconds reading a post that isn't exactly what they anticipated before they spent those very valuable 10 seconds of their life clicking and reading.
Click to expand...

Against my better judgement, I'm starting to enjoy you
 
I wonder about a Jordan Zimmerman and Anibal Sanchez trade. Maybe Mallex for Zimmerman, Sanchez and $5M (Sanchez' buyout of 2018).

Rotation of: Tehran, Zimmerman, Folty, Wisler, Sanchez

That would likely solve Detroits cash problems. I don't see Zimmerman as a #1 but he's a solid 2. Sanchez might bounce back but if not he's a back end body.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
I wonder about a Jordan Zimmerman and Anibal Sanchez trade. Maybe Mallex for Zimmerman, Sanchez and $5M (Sanchez' buyout of 2018).

Rotation of: Tehran, Zimmerman, Folty, Wisler, Sanchez

That would likely solve Detroits cash problems. I don't see Zimmerman as a #1 but he's a solid 2. Sanchez might bounce back but if not he's a back end body.
Click to expand...

I like the thought.. but I am just not sure about Zimm.. that contract is way to big for his production. 4 years is a bit much with the talent we are building below him. I think that trade is a big NO for me.. Sanchez is done IMO.. basically paying him out for the rest of the season.. not too bad, but not what I would want at this moment..
 
I usually agree with, or at least understand the point of, most things the guys at FG write, but every once in a while they drop things like this:

Alex
11:09 Ender, Albies, Newcomb, and Touki to LA for Urias?
Jeff Sullivan
11:09 I like the idea but LA wouldn't do that. Not enough upside, I don't think -- Urias, they believe, can and will be an ace

Is there anyone here that would make that trade from a Braves perspective? In my opinion, that package for Urias is beyond ludicrous.

Or am I severely underrating Urias?
 
Enscheff said:
I usually agree with, or at least understand the point of, most things the guys at FG write, but every once in a while they drop things like this:

Alex
11:09 Ender, Albies, Newcomb, and Touki to LA for Urias?
Jeff Sullivan
11:09 I like the idea but LA wouldn't do that. Not enough upside, I don't think -- Urias, they believe, can and will be an ace

Is there anyone here that would make that trade from a Braves perspective? In my opinion, that package for Urias is beyond ludicrous.

Or am I severely underrating Urias?
Click to expand...

You are not alone in your opinion. That package is way too much for one still unproven pitcher.

I can see why the Dodgers wouldn't do it though.
 
Enscheff said:
I usually agree with, or at least understand the point of, most things the guys at FG write, but every once in a while they drop things like this:

Alex
11:09 Ender, Albies, Newcomb, and Touki to LA for Urias?
Jeff Sullivan
11:09 I like the idea but LA wouldn't do that. Not enough upside, I don't think -- Urias, they believe, can and will be an ace

Is there anyone here that would make that trade from a Braves perspective? In my opinion, that package for Urias is beyond ludicrous.

Or am I severely underrating Urias?
Click to expand...

I wouldn't do that
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top