Power
- Thread starter msstate7
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You must have missed all the posts claiming the team will be fine with a bunch of sub-.400 SLG% guys stealing bases all day as long as they aren't "holes in the lineup". Just scroll up a bit, maybe flip to the previous pages.
None are good enough for a contending team. It needs to be:
LF - Braun/Cespedes
CF - Smith/Inciarte
RF - Markakis/Inciarte
Or don't even bother making a change.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
if I had to choose from that group.. kemp..
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
if Cespedes puts up the numbers again this year, he would be a good get. not sure how much he would run though.. pretty steep, but Cespy/Smith/Ender OF would be pretty bad ass.. Freese or Turner at 3B with again.. Cerevilla/Flowers at C and you have a good team.. Need to fill in bench from minors..
I suppose Kemp or Myers would make decent backup plans. I would take Kemp over Myers though.
Ces is probably pricing himself out of being a possibility for the Braves. I still think they should have signed him last offseason.
Kemp is doing better than I thought. A lineup like this wouldn't be bad at all:
Albies 2B
Swanson SS
Freeman 1B
Kemp LF
Markakis RF
Freese 3B
Cervelli C
Inciarte CF
No one is saying it wouldn't be a good thing to add more pop in the lineup. I have said the exact opposite, for example in advocating for us drafting Kyle Lewis.
What will not help, however, is adding pop for the sake of adding pop. Matt Kemp has not been worth more than 1 WAR in any of the last 3 years because he is disastrous defensively. That would not help the team, no matter how many HR he hit or what kind of SLG he put up. Markakis is at least as good a player as Kemp at this point.
I want good players. Yes, usually power hitters are good players, but I don't want a guy with power who isn't a good player overall. That is my point. And yes, you can win with a lineup full of good players, even if they don't combine for 140 HR.
Again, Kemp has been worth either 1.3 (FG) or 2.0 (BR) WAR over the last 3 seasons combined. That is over a total of 377 games. And we would be paying him $18 million/year through 2019. The Padres would do whatever it took to get us to take him off their hands.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I wasn't happy about Kemp.. Not a fan of Myers either.. and I am over Neck personally. Station to station.. and no range. So none of those 'potentials' did much for me..
You seem happy to have sub-.400 SLG from RF, 3B, and C for someone so seemingly dead set against sub-.400 SLG.
If you're over that from Markakis, you certainly won't like Kemp.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Yup. But there are additional factors to take into account. I could see a scenario, depending on how much of Kemp's contract we have to take on and what we would have to give up in a trade, where I would trade for him. And then turn around and trade Markakis for a catcher.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I know!! but it was different.
For me, I don't really want Kemp, no matter what we're paying. He just isn't a guy, at this point in his career, who is going to help a team win games.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It seems to me there are two teams we should be putting some feelers out to. One is the Yankees regarding what they would want in return for McCann or Gary Sanchez. The other is the Padres on what they would want for Kemp or Myers. I'm not necessarily talking about doing this soon. But as something to be discussed with 2017 and beyond in mind.
JxnMissFan
Gwinnett Bound
All along I've thought that Mallex, Dansby, Ozzie and Ender would be ok in a lineup with a few more Freddies added. I'm starting to second guess myself. 140 HR is probably the starting point for home runs for good offensive teams. The four young guys and Freeman should give you 50 to 55 HR. If you add 60 to 65 HR at C, 3rd and LF that's 115 to 120 HR. That puts the burden of 20 HR on the bench. That maybe asking to much of the bench.
Looking at it this way I don't believe a future outfield of Ender and Mallex will work unless one or them finds some pop.
I wouldn't be entirely opposed to McCann, but I wouldn't love it, either. I, like others, like the idea of Cervelli more, but his price will likely be pretty high and for more years.
I think everybody realizes it at this point, but I would say 'no thanks' on either Kemp or Myers. If it had to be one, though, give me Myers.
I think everybody realizes it at this point, but I would say 'no thanks' on either Kemp or Myers. If it had to be one, though, give me Myers.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
One thing to keep in mind about Kemp and Myers is the financial side. Myers has three arb years left after this year. He will cost more in prospects. With Kemp we can make use of the financial flexibility we will have next year to minimize how much we have to send back in the way of talent.