What narrative? Castro has a 109 WRC+ and 0.4 WAR already.
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What narrative? Castro has a 109 WRC+ and 0.4 WAR already.
His numbers are propped up by 1 or 2 games and are plummeting fast. Lets see where he is by the end of May.
msstate7
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Actually you got that reversed. He's had 3 bad games in a row. The previous 7 games he was beasting. That being said I expect him to be 80-90 WRC+ hitter with good defense. Castro is an average catcher. I wouldn't have spent what the Twins did on him.
Has nothing to do with Castro. Thethe thought Castro sucked because batting average was quoted (surprise surprise) without looking at his year to date stats. I had to correct him.
Funny that you think I didn't look at his fangrpahs page before responding. He will be awful again at the plate and that is where he's trending after a good game or two.
I'm sure he will be. He hasn't been awful so far and would be a huge upgrade defensively over Flowers.
Still half the player Castro is but Flowers has hit well since coming to Atlanta. The problem is he doesn't seem to be able to catch anymore.
zbhargrove
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Kinda wish we gambled on Puig
But he was the Cuban with the crazy attitude and antics. HO was the safer bet.
zbhargrove
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Lol... I have to love this post
0.3 WAR in 29 PA vs 0.4 WAR in 40 for Castro. Coppy's a genius.
Fangraphs doesn't have defensive data yet. BRef has it 0.2 to 0.4 with the included DRS stats.
May as well add Freese to this list as well. He was my #1 FA target 2 offseasons ago when the Pirates ended up signing him for $3M. He posted a .270/.352/.412 (.764 OPS) line with average defense at 3B and produced 1.9 bWAR.
The Pirates then extended him for 2/10 with a $6M option. So far this year he was posted a line of .314/.467/.543 (1.010 OPS) with his typical average defense at 3B.
Meanwhile, the Braves have been "seeing what they have" with Adonis Garcia. I don't think I need to post the numbers showing how badly the Braves have been at the 3B position the last couple years.
The Pirates then extended him for 2/10 with a $6M option. So far this year he was posted a line of .314/.467/.543 (1.010 OPS) with his typical average defense at 3B.
Meanwhile, the Braves have been "seeing what they have" with Adonis Garcia. I don't think I need to post the numbers showing how badly the Braves have been at the 3B position the last couple years.
chop2chip
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Agreed.. Freese was a missed opportunity.
Is the problem his pitch framing? I thought he graded well there?
Otherwise, I'm not sure how you accurately grade defense for a catcher. I honestly couldn't care less about how many runners he throws out, and the amount of plays he actually has to make a play on a ball has to be extremely small doesn't it?
Catcher defense only accounts for SBs allowed and passed balls:
http://www.fangraphs.com/library/defense/catcher-defense/
It's a bit early to evaluate framing runs since the most pitches any catcher has caught so far is ~600, but the usual suspects are at the top of the 2017 leader board:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=1899425
Grandal, Mac, Posey, Castro...all historically good framers. Flowers has 0.4 framing runs in under 400 attempts, so he is doing pretty well on a per-pitch basis.
On the flip side, Suzuki is unsurprisingly already at -0.3, but some of that has to be attributed to catching Dickey's knuckleball.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
I suggested trading for Daniel Murphy numerous times his last few years with the Mets and moving him to his natural third base position. Then I suggested him again as a free agent, now I hate it even more as I always liked Murphy. I didn't know he get so much better like this but I knew he was good.