Quiet Pursuit Of Cespedes?

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Rosenthal has talked to someone who thinks it's possible...

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...cial-bright-lights-ken-rosenthal-notes-091415

"The Braves could be one of the teams that pursues Cespedes in free agency, according to a source with knowledge of the club’s thinking.

While other teams might outbid Atlanta, the Braves clearly will need to ramp up if they are going to field a competitive team by the time their new ballpark opens in 2017."
 
Didn't John Hart say we weren't going to go after any of the top FA hitters this year? And after this season Cespedes will certainly get paid.
 
thewupk said:
Didn't John Hart say we weren't going to go after any of the top FA hitters this year? And after this season Cespedes will certainly get paid.
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He also said this team would be like the palatable girl at the dance.
 
Cespedes is going to get the Pablo Sandoval treatment and get overpaid, especially if he hits in the playoffs. When looking at FA veterans it's best to get a 3 year average, but teams look at the last year good or bad and pay the players accordingly off of that too much, IMO. I'd rather have the guy being discounted coming off of a subpar season.
 
Chico said:
Cespedes is going to get the Pablo Sandoval treatment and get overpaid, especially if he hits in the playoffs. When looking at FA veterans it's best to get a 3 year average, but teams look at the last year good or bad and pay the players accordingly off of that too much, IMO. I'd rather have the guy being discounted coming off of a subpar season.
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I think he's a better overall player than Sandoval, but I totally get your point and agree. He has the potential to keep up this all-star play, but just hadn't been that guy consistently.
 
I was a proponent of trying for Cespedes back when it was looking like he would get $100M-$125M. Now that he is carrying the Mets to the postseason with a scorching few months, someone is going to give him $150M+.

I really hope it isn't the Braves.
 
Chico said:
Cespedes is going to get the Pablo Sandoval treatment and get overpaid, especially if he hits in the playoffs. When looking at FA veterans it's best to get a 3 year average, but teams look at the last year good or bad and pay the players accordingly off of that too much, IMO. I'd rather have the guy being discounted coming off of a subpar season.
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Yup. See Shin Soo Choo.
 
thewupk said:
Didn't John Hart say we weren't going to go after any of the top FA hitters this year? And after this season Cespedes will certainly get paid.
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well, we know he is a liar though

he said this years team was going to be competitive after every trade that did the opposite of that

so
 
CyYoung31 said:
Dumb if we go after Cespedes and not Heyward. Heyward is so much better, and I bet they'll get similar contracts.
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Yup, he probably won't get the same deal but it's going to be close now. Ces has probably gotten into the 150-175 range with his insane 2nd half. And if you're giving Ces 175 why wouldn't you offer Heyward the same?
 
CyYoung31 said:
Dumb if we go after Cespedes and not Heyward. Heyward is so much better, and I bet they'll get similar contracts.
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I don't know about that. They get their value in similar ways (great defense, good speed, and good offense), but they do same thing in very different ways.

If Cespedes has truly broken out as a 35 homerun guy then he is probably a clear cut above Heyward and probably most OF's in baseball.
 
Signing Cespedes seems very, very unlikely to me. It would be a grave error, IMO. I'm eager to see the Mets in a position where they throw a monster deal at him.

I won't be surprised to see some due diligence on big-time FAs. Maybe even some smokescreens to give us leverage on other deals. Will be very surprised and disappointed though if we sign one of the elite bats or SPs this offseason.
 
BRule said:
Yup, he probably won't get the same deal but it's going to be close now. Ces has probably gotten into the 150-175 range with his insane 2nd half. And if you're giving Ces 175 why wouldn't you offer Heyward the same?
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Cespedes in the second half of this season has produced offensive numbers that Jason Heyward has never come close to touching. He's posting a 183 OPS+ with the Mets. Jason's previous career high was 123 in his rookie season. Cespedes has also always had more game power as well. Now, I would take a cautious approach with signing him, but Jason Heyward continues to be highly overrated for what he has done to this point in his career by most Braves fans. If anything, Jason Heyward is the definition of an underachiever. He has never played up to his talent.
 
That the Braves appear to be willing to spend is an encouraging notion, but the money would be better appropriated elsewhere. Cespedes is an iffy play.

This could all just be posturing from the Front Office to drive up his asking price and keep him away from the Mets in 2016 and beyond.
 
I thought Cespedes would have been a decent investment when he first became eligible to sign. The A's did sign him to a reasonable contract. He's going to get way too much money now. I would guess a lot more than Heyward will get given the premium on power-hitting.
 
KB21 said:
Cespedes in the second half of this season has produced offensive numbers that Jason Heyward has never come close to touching. He's posting a 183 OPS+ with the Mets. Jason's previous career high was 123 in his rookie season. Cespedes has also always had more game power as well. Now, I would take a cautious approach with signing him, but Jason Heyward continues to be highly overrated for what he has done to this point in his career by most Braves fans. If anything, Jason Heyward is the definition of an underachiever. He has never played up to his talent.
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Heyward has also been a consistant player. You can say he is an underachiever and overvalued due to defense all you want. But signing guys who have great 2nd halfs when they rest of their careers are just good is a recipe for disaster. With Heyward you know what you are getting.
 
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