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striker42 said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nsists-rope-NASCAR-garage-straight-noose.html

Daily Mail isn't the greatest news site in the world but it does have photos of plenty of pulldowns that look like nooses.
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zitothebrave said:
“Don, the image that I have seen of what was hanging in my garage is not a garage pull,” Wallace said. “I’ve been racing all my life. We’ve raced out of hundreds of garages that never had garage pulls like that. People that want to call it a garage pull put out old videos and photos of knots as their evidence, go ahead. From the evidence that I have, it’s a straight-up noose. The FBI has stated that it was a noose over and over again. NASCAR leadership has stated that it was a noose. I can confirm that. I actually got evidence of what was hanging in my garage over my car around my pit crew guy to confirm that it was a noose. Never seen anything like it.”


The U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama and the FBI said in a joint statement that the noose had been in Wallace’s garage stall since the October race at Talladega in 2019. Phelps said Tuesday that there were no other garage stall rope handles made into nooses at Talladega and Wallace said on CNN that he realized that it was not targeted at him because of when it was tied.


https://sports.yahoo.com/bubba-wall...is-garage-wont-lead-to-charges-031612677.html
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So NASCAR president says it's not normal. But we should look at pictures showing totally different looking garage ropes as evidence when only one kinda maybe looks like a noose but isn't wrapped witha s many cords as the one on Wallace's garage.

A running knot and a hangman's noose are different. Most of thsoe are running knots, simple knots.
 
I think Bubba has lost a lot of sympathy and credibility with that CNN interview.

There was an opportunity to reflect and express caution for jumping to conclusions and believing positive intent.

Instead he doubles down on a stupid conspiracy (the rope was there since 2019 and no relation to Bubba)
 
sturg33 said:
Maybe investigate it before going national with a racist hate crime conviction?

Does evidence matter anymore?
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No one went with a "racist hate crime conviction"

How would you react to someone presenting this to you, while rednecks have been driving automobiles with confederate flags in front of their main entrance of TMS and and flying above the Speedway?

I mean come on. What would you expect? You're either lying or heartless if you wouldn't protect your employee.
 
thethe said:
How about sending any person down there and realizing it was something that can be found in garages all across the nation?

Sat down with Bubba and reviewed the tape to show that nobody changed anything from the date it was determined he would be in that garage dock?

You know...sensible things as opposed yo fanning flames of fake systemic racism.

I know...thats too logical for you stupid marxists.
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You dumb****, they knew where it came from. The president of NASCAR said there were no other ones that looked like that at Talladega.

Bubba, again, didn't find it. NASCAR's president informed him.

If NASCAR knew this was normal, then they woudln't have done what they did.
 
zitothebrave said:
No one went with a "racist hate crime conviction"

How would you react to someone presenting this to you, while rednecks have been driving automobiles with confederate flags in front of their main entrance of TMS and and flying above the Speedway?

I mean come on. What would you expect? You're either lying or heartless if you wouldn't protect your employee.
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Must


Assume

Racism
 
zitothebrave said:
You dumb****, they knew where it came from. The president of NASCAR said there were no other ones that looked like that at Talladega.

Bubba, again, didn't find it. NASCAR's president informed him.

If NASCAR knew this was normal, then they woudln't have done what they did.
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and if they didn't want to racially inflame the nation they could have spent 5 minutes to solve it.
 
zitothebrave said:
No one went with a "racist hate crime conviction"

How would you react to someone presenting this to you, while rednecks have been driving automobiles with confederate flags in front of their main entrance of TMS and and flying above the Speedway?

I mean come on. What would you expect? You're either lying or heartless if you wouldn't protect your employee.
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At this point you have to be trolling.

With the benefit of hindsight you think this was handled appropriately?

Seriously?
 
This is the right thing to say... but he did a day late after the unforced error of doubling down

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sturg33 said:
At this point you have to be trolling.

With the benefit of hindsight you think this was handled appropriately?

Seriously?
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Yes I do. How would you handle it? You don't have the benefit of hindsight when making a decision. You can only go on the facts you have.
 
zitothebrave said:
Yes I do. How would you handle it? You don't have the benefit of hindsight when making a decision. You can only go on the facts you have.
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Lol I already answered.

You think pushing a national story on this before... oh, I dunno, checking the security cam footage was the right call?

C'mon man stop being so stupid just to.double down on you getting duped again.
 
thethe said:
and if they didn't want to racially inflame the nation they could have spent 5 minutes to solve it.
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There was one noose shaped thing in all the garage, how would you handle it? Keep in mind you likely don't have at your disposal security footage from a year ago.
 
zitothebrave said:
There was one noose shaped thing in all the garage, how would you handle it? Keep in mind you likely don't have at your disposal security footage from a year ago.
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If the "noose" (you're wrong about that, btw) was intended for Bubba, they'd need to check footage from what, the night before?
 
sturg33 said:
Lol I already answered.

You think pushing a national story on this before... oh, I dunno, checking the security cam footage was the right call?

C'mon man stop being so stupid just to.double down on you getting duped again.
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Yeah, I would stand up for my employee before checking everything if it's not readily available. There's a reason they did it the way they did.

Tell me this, you have a black employee who finds a cotton plant in their parking spot. Do you wait before you do a thorough investigation before you tell them?
 
sturg33 said:
If the "noose" (you're wrong about that, btw) was intended for Bubba, they'd need to check footage from what, the night before?
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Not really, There was a number of times it could have happened. There was a week I believe of probable cause. Assuming like most major corporations I know, their security cameras are going out to some data server elsewhere that you have to request it from.
 
zitothebrave said:
Yeah, I would stand up for my employee before checking everything if it's not readily available. There's a reason they did it the way they did.

Tell me this, you have a black employee who finds a cotton plant in their parking spot. Do you wait before you do a thorough investigation before you tell them?
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I dont go to the national media to say there was a hate crime before I'm sure there was.

This is not hard.

Well, it is for you.

You need a break
 
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