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****ing Ridley is a moron. But I mean this tweet is ****ing funny as hell.

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Hopefully the Falcons take this season to draft a QB with a high ceiling (Malik Willis would be the dream) let Ryan teach them for a year. Then let Matt go hunt his Superbowl with another team as we trade him off. Hell, if someone at the daedling could take Matt and looked like a superb owl contender I'd do that too.
 
Wow Seahawks trade Wilson to Broncos. Wild trade. Lots of value for the Seahawks, btu Broncos do get a great QB now. I just don't think it's likely to be a win for the Broncos.
 
Broncos have a ready made team. Great WRs, good RB duo (if they can keep Gordon), good defense. But in that division, they can't go anywhere without a good QB. Wilson is an elite QB. Broncos should be considered the AFC favorite next year, imo.
 
Carp said:
Broncos have a ready made team. Great WRs, good RB duo (if they can keep Gordon), good defense. But in that division, they can't go anywhere without a good QB. Wilson is an elite QB. Broncos should be considered the AFC favorite next year, imo.
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Broncos got much better now. But I think it's hard to win in that division.
 
I am curious to see how Wilson does outside of Seattle. He should have a good OLine for the first time in a long time so no excuses anymore. I also find it funny that the Seahawks got two first round picks. Their track record on first round picks looks like most teams track record on 4th round draft picks.
 
zitothebrave said:
Broncos got much better now. But I think it's hard to win in that division.
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Broncos had a +1 point differential last year with bottom tier QB play. Both games against the Chiefs were competitive, just no QB. Broncos have been missing a QB, the rest of the roster is ready to roll for the most part.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I am curious to see how Wilson does outside of Seattle. He should have a good OLine for the first time in a long time so no excuses anymore. I also find it funny that the Seahawks got two first round picks. Their track record on first round picks looks like most teams track record on 4th round draft picks.
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I mean, they've only had like 4 1st round picks the last 10 years. Granted most of those have been pretty terrible and widely panned at the time of the selection. Their last 1st round pick, Jordyn Brooks looks to be pretty good though.
 
Heyward said:
Broncos had a +1 point differential last year with bottom tier QB play. Both games against the Chiefs were competitive, just no QB. Broncos have been missing a QB, the rest of the roster is ready to roll for the most part.
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Bridgewater was 14th in DYAR last year, 18th the year before with Carolina for a benchmark of having almost no talent around him. He is hardly bottom tier. Wilson last 2 years was 15th and 11th.

Drew Lock sucked, but I wouldn't call Denver QB play bottom tier when their starter was a solid QB.
 
Advanced stats are pretty weak in football. Especially since the difference in like 7th and 15th isn't all that substantial. Wilson was injured/playing through an injury much this year too.


What we know is that Wilson has history of playing like an elite QB. Despite playing with below average OLs and no name WRs for most of his career, he has an extremely impressive resume. He has finished with 30+ passing TDs 5 times and single digit Ints 6 times (including 2021). He makes plays other most other QBs simply can't and is very efficient with the ball. And this is without including the value he adds with his legs. If you think there is a single team in the league that wouldn't rate Wilson as a massive improvement over what the Broncos ran out in 2021, then you are lying to yourself.
 
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zitothebrave said:
Bridgewater was 14th in DYAR last year, 18th the year before with Carolina for a benchmark of having almost no talent around him. He is hardly bottom tier. Wilson last 2 years was 15th and 11th.

Drew Lock sucked, but I wouldn't call Denver QB play bottom tier when their starter was a solid QB.
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Teddy was bottom tier after the first 3 games. Dont care what the advanced stats say, Russ is a massive upgrade at QB. Russ still had 26 TD's/5 picks while missing 3 or 4 games. He played really well to end the season.
 
Carp said:
Advanced stats are pretty weak in football. Especially since the difference in like 7th and 15th isn't all that substantial. Wilson was injured/playing through an injury much this year too.


What we know is that Wilson has history of playing like an elite QB. Despite playing with below average OLs and no name WRs for most of his career, he has an extremely impressive resume. He has finished with 30+ passing TDs 5 times and single digit Ints 6 times (including 2021). He makes plays other most other QBs simply can't and is very efficient with the ball. And this is without including the value he adds with his legs. If you think there is a single team in the league that wouldn't rate Wilson as a massive improvement over what the Broncos ran out in 2021, then you are lying to yourself.
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Wilson is certainly a better QB than Teddy Bridgewater. That wasn't my point, I was throwing that in there just to make the point that the gulf isn't tremendous. This isn't going from Zach Wilson to Aaron Rodgers.

Heyward said the QB play was bottom tier, and that isn't true. They'll be better with Wilson, but they better hope they're now super bowl contenders because they traded out multiple first rounders for their shot.
 
Heyward said:
Teddy was bottom tier after the first 3 games. Dont care what the advanced stats say, Russ is a massive upgrade at QB. Russ still had 26 TD's/5 picks while missing 3 or 4 games. He played really well to end the season.
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Raw numbers his average stats post game 3, 64 comp% 22 TDs 11 INTs 88.8 Rate 6.72 Y/A That puts him somewhere between Mac Jones, Matt Ryan, and Ben Roethlisberger, none would be what I woudl call bottom tier QB.
 
zitothebrave said:
I'm not shocked. He is a tool. Hope someone beats the bucs in the division. Too bad the south is miserable.
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He only has an NFC division title because Jameis was injured.



I think Brady just "retired" as a way to get leverage in his relationship with Arians.
 
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Some wild rumors involving the Falcons and Watson. Getting Watson makes sense for Atlanta as he's a local kid who is super marketable. It would be a wild move, that's for sure.
 
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