REAL FOOTBALL Thread

zitothebrave said:
Gronk is a freak. He may be rusty but a rusty gronk is one of the 10 best TEs in the NFL. Since a healthy one is far and away the best.
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There aren't 10 good TE's in the league.

It is he.
Graham

Gates
Gonzalez
Davis
Witten

And these four are south of being elite now.
 
"Since beginning of 1990 season, teams to start 3-0 in NFL make playoffs 75% of time (2-1 make it 54%, 1-2 24%, 0-3 3%)"
 
AerchAngel said:
There aren't 10 good TE's in the league.

It is he.
Graham

Gates
Gonzalez
Davis
Witten

And these four are south of being elite now.
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Whitten may not have the natural talent of the others guys, but he broke the record for receptions by a TE just last season. I'd put him right up there with any TE in the league in terms of production.
 
yeezus said:
I heard they offered more as well.

He just didn't want to be there.
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Probably had a lot to do with the message they sent him at the beginning of last year taking him out of the gameplan before his Free Agency. Well, that bit em back. When one TE gets arrested for murder, and the other can't stop nailing porn actresses long enough to get the VD infection out of his arm, you get in trouble quick I reckon.

Was a bad offseason for the Pats, but they will be right there when it comes down to it.
 
bravesnumberone said:
This is two away games in a row, we've blown a 10-point lead. Injuries hurt us, but Christ, we've got to convert on third downs when we need it. Next week against the Pats looms large now.
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Can't lose as many players as we have and still expect to roll over the division. Unless we start getting healthy (which I doubt) quickly, we will compete for a wild card and thats about all. I am as big of a Falcon fan as anyone, but we have been decimated.

I don't know how anyone could watch that game and say that the Dolphins were the better team all game long. Quite the opposite. Falcons were the better team all day long unitl that drive to end it, even then we had a few third downs to get the stop. The dolphins were beat in most phases until 4 minutes left.
 
Tapate50 said:
Can't lose as many players as we have and still expect to roll over the division. Unless we start getting healthy (which I doubt) quickly, we will compete for a wild card and thats about all. I am as big of a Falcon fan as anyone, but we have been decimated.

I don't know how anyone could watch that game and say that the Dolphins were the better team all game long. Quite the opposite. Falcons were the better team all day long unitl that drive to end it, even then we had a few third downs to get the stop. The dolphins were beat in most phases until 4 minutes left.
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Yeah I agree. I knew it'd be tough with the injuries, but at some point you've got to finish games, and you've got to finish drives. Still a ton of tough games to get through. At this point, I'd be thrilled with 10-6 and a WC berth. I didn't even think we'd win much more than 10 games before the injuries.
 
Tapate50 said:
Can't lose as many players as we have and still expect to roll over the division. Unless we start getting healthy (which I doubt) quickly, we will compete for a wild card and thats about all. I am as big of a Falcon fan as anyone, but we have been decimated.

I don't know how anyone could watch that game and say that the Dolphins were the better team all game long. Quite the opposite. Falcons were the better team all day long unitl that drive to end it, even then we had a few third downs to get the stop. The dolphins were beat in most phases until 4 minutes left.
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Give me a break with the injuries.

Every team has them, Saints have more than the Falcons and are 3-0 right now, dumb excuse.
 
Heyward said:
Give me a break with the injuries.

Every team has them, Saints have more than the Falcons and are 3-0 right now, dumb excuse.
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It isn't an excuse for the L, it is a fact of the game that has impacted them greatly as to why we are seeing the outcomes we are. Who expects to beat a good team on the road with 36% of their starting lineup on IR (Vegas didn't)? They don't have a AAA affiliate to draw from and call up seasoned players. They have 6 injured starters on Offense. Just lost 2 starters more on D, including their best defensive player. Samuel (their best corner just came back). They have UDFA rookies starting. They will get better, but they were better for 55 minutes than a team that is now 3-0. The world is not ending, but they aren't going to win 13 games and steamroll the division this year with all that. They will hopefully get to 9 or 10 wins and be in the hunt for a WC. It is just reality with those injuries.

The Saints beat us at home in a close game, and played the Cards and someone else not worth a **** (Tampa!). Lets not go anoiting them SB champs just yet. Make em play some tough teams first. They are taking care of business though as expected. The Saints also didn't lose Graham or a guy named Brees, so they will be fine. Brees is in another world out there.

I think the D takes a few steps back as the schedule toughens, but they have responded well to Rob's mixture of tranny cocain partys so far. Have you seen that dudes' conversiosn van?
 
Patrick Willis looks like he is going to miss some time. Harbaugh talking about activating John Baldwin and Nnamdi is hurt as well (which actually may help the defense oddly).

trouble in Smugtown?
 
Tapate50 said:
It isn't an excuse for the L, it is a fact of the game that has impacted them greatly as to why we are seeing the outcomes we are. Who expects to beat a good team on the road with 36% of their starting lineup on IR (Vegas didn't)? They don't have a AAA affiliate to draw from and call up seasoned players. They have 6 injured starters on Offense. Just lost 2 starters more on D, including their best defensive player. Samuel (their best corner just came back). They have UDFA rookies starting. They will get better, but they were better for 55 minutes than a team that is now 3-0. The world is not ending, but they aren't going to win 13 games and steamroll the division this year with all that. They will hopefully get to 9 or 10 wins and be in the hunt for a WC. It is just reality with those injuries.

The Saints beat us at home in a close game, and played the Cards and someone else not worth a **** (Tampa!). Lets not go anoiting them SB champs just yet. Make em play some tough teams first. They are taking care of business though as expected. The Saints also didn't lose Graham or a guy named Brees, so they will be fine. Brees is in another world out there.

I think the D takes a few steps back as the schedule toughens, but they have responded well to Rob's mixture of tranny cocain partys so far. Have you seen that dudes' conversiosn van?
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Saints have lost Will Smith, PRob, Vilma, Victor Butler, as well as some other players on defense.

And no **** they haven't, Falcons didnt lose TonyG or Julio, or Ryan.

Falcons could easily be 3-0, I'm not sure they only win 9-10 but like the Niners, can't get into too big of a hole.

Regards to the Saints, you're right, next 3 games, vs Mia, and at Chi and NE will tell how good they are.

Other teams have suffered a ton of injuries too, so I don't see the excuse for it.
 
Heyward said:
Saints have lost Will Smith, PRob, Vilma, Victor Butler, as well as some other players on defense.

And no **** they haven't, Falcons didnt lose TonyG or Julio, or Ryan.

Falcons could easily be 3-0, I'm not sure they only win 9-10 but like the Niners, can't get into too big of a hole.

Regards to the Saints, you're right, next 3 games, vs Mia, and at Chi and NE will tell how good they are.

Other teams have suffered a ton of injuries too, so I don't see the excuse for it.
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Like I said, against a good team they had 36% of their starting lineup on IR. They were the better team for 55 minutes. Not sure what you want me to tell you, but in the NFL...that happens. Welcome to the NFL, but you have to adjust expectations when your guys go down. There aren't just replacement players sitting at home waiting on a chance. The quality decreases with every injury in 90% of cases.

none of those players you listed hurt for Nola even equal Spoon's loss either.
 
Tapate50 said:
Like I said, against a good team they had 36% of their starting lineup on IR. They were the better team for 55 minutes. Not sure what you want me to tell you, but in the NFL...that happens. Welcome to the NFL, but you have to adjust expectations when your guys go down. There aren't just replacement players sitting at home waiting on a chance. The quality decreases with every injury in 90% of cases.

none of those players you listed hurt for Nola even equal Spoon's loss either.
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The Broncos are missing 3 of their top 4 players, and down to a third string center, give me a ****ing break with this ****.

Spoon is good but not like he's Lawrence Taylor.
 
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