REAL FOOTBALL Thread
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zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Peyton Manning wouldn't be in the discussion for best QB of all time without Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. Great Qbs need a go to man. One of the best examples I can think of a QB who desperately needed a go to man and had a massive turnaroudn was McNabb. He was a very good QB with bums like James THrash and Toddpinkston, then he gets Owens and is one of the top QBs in the league. The receiver makes the QB better, the QB makes the receiver better. White and Jones woudln't have the same numbers if they had a lesser QB and Ryan wouldn't have the same numbers with lesser receivers. Pretty simple concept.
Thats fine but don't make it seem like stafford is in a better situation than ryan because he isnt. Ryan is in the best situation in terms of qbs. He has a dome and three hof guys. Ryan is still a good qb but lots of guys would put up his numbers in a similar situation.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I'd trade Julio and Roddy for Megatron. Knowing I could easily get a good second WR somewhere else. Maybe someday Julio will be close to Megatron but I wouldn't bet on it, and I have concerns about his health.
And to be 100% real, Tony wouldn't be this great on most other teams. Cause of the outside threats in Atlanta teams are forced to basically leave Tony unchecked or lesser covered. Still is a great asset cause he has amazing hands and gets open. But he's not the superstar he used to be.
Atlanta has the right combination of talents. They have a great deep threat, intermediate threat and short threat. Ryan can utilize them all.
And to be 100% real, Tony wouldn't be this great on most other teams. Cause of the outside threats in Atlanta teams are forced to basically leave Tony unchecked or lesser covered. Still is a great asset cause he has amazing hands and gets open. But he's not the superstar he used to be.
Atlanta has the right combination of talents. They have a great deep threat, intermediate threat and short threat. Ryan can utilize them all.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Julio is not as awesome as Megatron. He may have better range (Julio has sick hops) but Megatron has insane hands and is much bigger so is even more dangerous after the catch.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9482930/bill-barnwell-breaks-nfl-young-elite-quarterbacks
Just an awesome article.
Just an awesome article.
Tapate50
Well-known member
So many LOLs, so little time.
Its great that Falcons fans can laugh at Zito's stuff as well.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Quality post as usual.
I don't think much needs to be said for that post that he quoted. It speaks for itself.
How did you blow it out of the water?
Did I blow your out of the water posting how much more accurate RG3 is?
To be fair, Kaep throws the ball down the field more than RG3. The Redskins run a lot more of a screen game than the 49ers did.
RG3!
I hope he comes back healthy because he is a hell of a QB and football player.
Kaep 218 passes-
0-4 on passes 41+ yards
2-8 on passes 31-39 yards
15-19 on passes 21-30 yards
25-50 on passes 11-20
42-81 (37% of total-52% completion%) on passes over 11 yards
RG3:
4-13 on passes >41
0-4 on passes 31-40
11-18 on passes 21-30
52-83 on passes 11-20
67-118 (30% of total, 57% completion%)
RG3 more effective throwing deep. So what.
So naive my friend. Are you factoring in YAC at all? RG3 benefits from a high percentage of his passings yards from run after catch. Please see the below.
http://wp.advancednflstats.com/airYardsStats.php
In his limited sample, Kaep was by far the most effective deep passer in the league.
Further, out of hte top 10QBR QB's (we are taking out Alex Smith here)...RG3 has the highest percentage of his passing yards attributed to YAC. WHAT A DEEP THROWER!
GF Fail.
The numbers I posted are passes thrown in the air by yardage. Thus, you fail again. For example, RG3 on passes thrown over 41 yards.
Your link is based on what guys did after the catch. Apples to oranges. BC RG3 put the ball in position for his receivers to make yards after the catch shouldn't be held against him. He doesn't have big physical WRers where he can just throw the ball up and let them make the play.