Tapate50
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I didn’t see this one coming.
Pete had a team that shouldn’t be that competitive within his playoff grasp.
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I didn’t see this one coming.
Pete had a team that shouldn’t be that competitive within his playoff grasp.
striker42
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I prefer Maye but otherwise agree with your plan.
He definitely turned rump roast into filet mignon with that roster the last couple of years. Totally rejuvenated the career of Geno Smith, which still seems impossible to me. I didn't even realize he was still in the NFL until like week 4 of last season.
I think there is enough talent at the QB position in this draft and in free agency to not have to trade up. Sign Cousins or draft Daniels.
zbhargrove
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I think my preference for draft QB's has settled into Daniels, Maye, then Williams
I think Williams is going to be a bust... he's so soft
striker42
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Daniels is gonna be gone way before 8. If Chicago goes QB then Daniels is probably top 3. No way he makes it past the Giants.
If the Falcons stick at 8 they're probably looking at Penix or McCarthy. While I like Penix, 8 is way too high for him. Again the Falcons find themselves in kind of a no mans land in the draft. We'll probably end up taking a long snapper or something.
Tapate50
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QBs could go 1-3. But it's impossible to know what order right now. Daniels gets graded anywhere from the 3rd to the 6th best QB depending on what list you are looking at. The Cards aren't taking a QB. The Giants have already come out and said Daniel Jones is their starter in 2024. Maybe they are posturing, but Jones has a 47 million cap hit and Dabol has hitched his coaching career to the success of Jones.
Unless someone moves up in front of Atlanta, Daniels could/should be there for the taking at 8.
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zitothebrave
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Truth is there's tons of questions in this draft. Bears could decide to stick with Fields and trade out to anyone who would give them the best haul.
We know washington is taking QB 2nd overall. Question is will they stay put. I could see Washington doing something wild like if nothing else happens trading their 1 and 2 for the number 1 pick and the Bears 3rd round pick. But they could be content with Maye or Williams and be fine with staying second.
We assume Arizona is taking MHjr as long as someone doesn't trade up to get him infront of him.
After that there's questions.
When you look at teams who will "need" a QB you see
Atlanta, Chicago, Denver, Raiders, Vikings, Pats, Saints, Giants, Jets, Seahawks, Bucs, Commanders.
Now "need" is in quotes for a number of reason. Chicago would decide to stick with Fields and trade down and give him some weapons and protection. Denver may not replace Wilson yet, Pats as I said could decide to suck one more year, Saints probably won't take a QB considering they spent resources on Carr, Giants probably won't take a QB because of Jones's dead money, it would make more sense for them to get strong NFL talent either a WR, Edge, or OT, and if they suck again, then get rid of Jones and take a QB, Jets probably don't take a QB as they're probably betting on Rodgers being healthy, and will likely take BPA, if they take a QB it will be in the second round to learn from rodgers, Seahawks don't really need a QB IMO. Geno Smith is fine, but new coach could want to grab "their" guy. but to trade up 10 picks into the top 10 likely will be too much of an ask. Bucs won't be trading up, they probably stick with Mayfield for another year and maybe draft a project QB in the second round. Commanders are taking a QB. IF there's a safe bet in the NFL draft, Commanders are taking a QB.
So my dream falcons scenario is New England wants to tank a year, and no one wants to trade up.
zbhargrove
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I don't think Daniels is making it to 8... many analysts I've seen lately seem to think he has moved past Maye as QB2...
zitothebrave
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Williams is just so damned talented. I don't fully buy the soft analysis. But who knows, the NFL is cruel.
I want a QB to fall to 8 for us. That's my goal.
zitothebrave
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We don't know what will be happening. QBs could go 1-3, Bears could decide to keep fields or Pats could decide to not take a QB. After that most teams before Falcons won't take a QB so the risk is someone trading up.
zbhargrove
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Yeah I changed my wording to many analysts... but there has been a trend of moving Daniels up
zitothebrave
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Fair enough. I would happily take any of Maye, Daniels or WIlliams as long as we kept as much draft capital as possible. I don't believe we're just a QB away from being great. Either we need to sign Cousins and draft an edge (defense still needs help) or see what happens in the draft and deal with it. I see 3 draft scenarios working for us either 1 a QB falls to us. 2 We gamble on a second rounder again (will be better than Ridder though) in McCarthy, Penix, or Nix, or for our final option if the Bears take a QB trade for fields by giving up our second (or maybe even 3rd) round pick for him and take the best edge or WR with our first round pick and gamble that's what we need.
sturg33
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y'all better figure it out in the next 2 years because taking 3 top 10 offensive weapons and not maximizing that during their rookie deals will be malpractice
zitothebrave
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In defense of Atlanta, the 2022 draft was an alltime stinker. The only top talents were those who went in the top 5, after that it was a bunch fo guys who would have gone into the 20s in most other drafts. In the 2 seasons since that draft it produced 9 probowlers, 2021 has 9 probowlers in just the first round.
zbhargrove
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The early returns on the 2023 draft look pretty good. Zach Harrison showed out when he got more playing time at the end of the year.
striker42
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I'm still not sold on Drake London. Olave for the Saints, Wilson for the Steelers, and Pickens for the Steelers all went after London and have to date out produced him. London can make insane circus catches but he's got no speed. If he had run the 40 before the draft he might have ended up in the second round. So even in a bad draft they may have made a bad pick.
Personally I wanted Olave or Wilson if we had to go WR. London didn't make my top 3.
zitothebrave
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I'd 100% rather have had Wilson IIRC I wanted Wilson or Cross (I can't help it that I like offensive linemen)
Redraft you'd probably take Kyle Hamilton and George Pickens and get better value.
But London was not considered a bad pick by any draft expert.
Redraft you'd probably take Kyle Hamilton and George Pickens and get better value.
But London was not considered a bad pick by any draft expert.
zbhargrove
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London wasn't my first choice... I also liked Olave and Wilson better... Pickens talent wise (could become a locker room problem though)... but I think London is very good. I think his "lack of speed" is way overstated... he's been wide open plenty but doesn't have anyone to throw to him.