REAL FOOTBALL Thread

striker42 said:
The Eagles should feel bad. For all the headlines, the Falcons offense is an aging QB who looked mediocre and the two early first round receiving options that are just guys. Bijan looks legit but letting this team march down the field is embarrassing.
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Cousins with a little of the 2022 magic vibe in the 4th quarter. Eagles opened the door and the Falcons took advantage of it much like what happened with various Vikings' opponents in 2022. Can't believe the Eagles threw on 3rd down, but if Barkley catches that lollipop the game is over. That said, the defensive collapse was embarrassing.
 
50PoundHead said:
Cousins with a little of the 2022 magic vibe in the 4th quarter. Eagles opened the door and the Falcons took advantage of it much like what happened with various Vikings' opponents in 2022. Can't believe the Eagles threw on 3rd down, but if Barkley catches that lollipop the game is over. That said, the defensive collapse was embarrassing.
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Yeah, pretty much gift wrapped the game for the Falcons.
 
I don't know if Bryce is any good. The deck was stacked against him before he played a single game.

But I would trade Will Levis for him in a heartbeat, because I KNOW Levis sucks.
 
Carp said:
I don't know if Bryce is any good. The deck was stacked against him before he played a single game.

But I would trade Will Levis for him in a heartbeat, because I KNOW Levis sucks.
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Young reminds me of Fields in that they both went into ridiculously bad situations where they never had a chance. Who knows if they'd have been something elsewhere, but there was no way they were going to be good where they were.
 
striker42 said:
Young reminds me of Fields in that they both went into ridiculously bad situations where they never had a chance. Who knows if they'd have been something elsewhere, but there was no way they were going to be good where they were.
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Fields showed flashes.

I'm not sure Young will get that chance, but so far the highlights have been few and far between.
 
striker42 said:
Young reminds me of Fields in that they both went into ridiculously bad situations where they never had a chance. Who knows if they'd have been something elsewhere, but there was no way they were going to be good where they were.
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Young IMO his best situtation was to fall in the draft to a team who needed a game manager. No one who needed that was picking that high. Probably Indy would have been his best shot.

Really his BCS would have been to stay in school 1 more year, then go in the QB craze this year, I think he could have been OK on Minnesota or Denver.
 
Speaking of QBs, the Pats are in a sorry state, but Aaron Rodgers looked sharp last night. I've always believed he ranks among the best (could be THE best) pure passers in the history of the game. In his prime, there wasn't a throw he couldn't make. He's not that anymore, but he still looks accurate and I was surprised at his mobility and willingness to tuck it and run last night. I'm sure the competition will get tougher, but I think those who wanted to bury him can put their shovels back in the tool shed.
 
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50PoundHead said:
Speaking of QBs, the Pats are in a sorry state, but Aaron Rodgers looked sharp last night. I've always believed he ranks among the best (could be THE best) pure passers in the history of the game. In his prime, there wasn't a throw he couldn't make. He's not that anymore, but he still looks accurate and I was surprised at his mobility and willingness to tuck it and run last night. I'm sure the competition will get tougher, but I think those who wanted to bury him can put their shovels back in the tool shed.
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I mean Rodgers is second all time to Peyton in MVP wins, he's an all time great. Though he shoudln't have won the MVP in 2020 over Josh ALlen and probably shouldn't have won in 2021 over Brady but not Josh Allen. Josh Allen was the best QB in the league from 2020-2022 when you combine Passing and Rushing, Though I understand and agree that Mahomes should have won in 2022. But Allen should have won the 2 MVPs Rodgers did.

Sorry for that tangent there.

ROdgers is a great QB but he is old, and a lot of his game was his overall dangerousness as a passer, he's much more in the Brett Favre realm than the Tom Brady realm. But he's going to end his career with over 60000 yards and round 500 TDs, that's rarified air, only 8 QBs right now have 60000 yards, only 4 QBs have 500 TDs (Rodgers is already 5th all time in passing TDs) and he has the all time lowest career INT%. He's a lock for the hall of fame, and the only slight on his legacy IMO is that he played his career with Brady who's the greatest to do it.
 
zitothebrave said:
I mean Rodgers is second all time to Peyton in MVP wins, he's an all time great. Though he shoudln't have won the MVP in 2020 over Josh ALlen and probably shouldn't have won in 2021 over Brady but not Josh Allen. Josh Allen was the best QB in the league from 2020-2022 when you combine Passing and Rushing, Though I understand and agree that Mahomes should have won in 2022. But Allen should have won the 2 MVPs Rodgers did.

Sorry for that tangent there.

ROdgers is a great QB but he is old, and a lot of his game was his overall dangerousness as a passer, he's much more in the Brett Favre realm than the Tom Brady realm. But he's going to end his career with over 60000 yards and round 500 TDs, that's rarified air, only 8 QBs right now have 60000 yards, only 4 QBs have 500 TDs (Rodgers is already 5th all time in passing TDs) and he has the all time lowest career INT%. He's a lock for the hall of fame, and the only slight on his legacy IMO is that he played his career with Brady who's the greatest to do it.
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I don't think Rodgers is the GOAT, but I do think he's probably the best passer in the history of the league in that there wasn't a throw he couldn't make when he was in his prime. I think the most recent MVP awards were more about his rebounding from what appeared to be him reaching the end of his career during the last couple of years under the McCarthy regime. He also led a couple of flawed Packers' teams to the playoffs. Like Brady, Rodgers has an unbelievable work ethic. He looked in pretty good shape last night when he decided to take off when the play broke down. I don't see him leading the league in anything this year, but he may get the Jets into the playoffs.
 
50PoundHead said:
I don't think Rodgers is the GOAT, but I do think he's probably the best passer in the history of the league in that there wasn't a throw he couldn't make when he was in his prime. I think the most recent MVP awards were more about his rebounding from what appeared to be him reaching the end of his career during the last couple of years under the McCarthy regime. He also led a couple of flawed Packers' teams to the playoffs. Like Brady, Rodgers has an unbelievable work ethic. He looked in pretty good shape last night when he decided to take off when the play broke down. I don't see him leading the league in anything this year, but he may get the Jets into the playoffs.
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Rodgers is elite as a passer for sure. I don't know about the best passer in history. Dan Marino was something special. Guys like Brees and Brady lacked Rodgers top end skill but could make any throw under 30 yards.
 
I would agree that Rodgers is the best blend of arm strength and accuracy the league has ever seen. It was absolutely crazy some of the throws he would make. The Jared Cook sideline throw in the playoffs certainly being one of the best.
 
Saints couldn't beat the Eagles at home after taking it to the Cowboys on the road.

Then I mean come on bucs, getting bitch slapped by the Broncos. What's wrong with you?

That being said GEQBUS is still ****ing doing it. Wonder what the Vikings do next year if he keeps killing it. Hard to justify benching him.
 
This is one of most onesided officiated games I've seen in a minute. 2 holds on the falcons linemen and they call roughing the passer on a clean hit.
 
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