Dude just Google it. You're wrong.
Baker is absolutely top 5ish in NFL among starters.
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Dude just Google it. You're wrong.
Baker is absolutely top 5ish in NFL among starters.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I don't see it. I watch a lot of baker and his arm talent is not shit, but it isn't what stands out. Like using your own analogy, it would say that JJ McCarthy has a stronger arm than Justin Herbert and no one believes that.
Bills' Josh Allen ranked as having No. 1 arm strength in NFL
This is an impressive spot to hold.
"The rest of the top 10 after Allen: Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Joe Burrow, Caleb Williams, Michael Penix Jr. and Jordan Love."
This next site tracks velocity of QBs that threw at the combine from 08-23. Baker is top 5 among all QBs drafted in during this time that we have data for.
Quarterback Ball Velocity at NFL Combine 2008-2023
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zbhargrove
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Drake London was easily the best WR in his class. So good.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Yeah, Falcons made some moves, but aside from trading up for Pearce, none of them were splashy, he's getting more out of guys and the guys we drafted all hit.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I feel bad for Wilson and Olave, they wound up in such terrible places. I think they're good receivers but Wilson has never had a great QB, and Olave has huge concussion issues. But London seems like a great dude and a good WR. I think there's an interesting debate to the value as a later pick PIckens brings but his head case issues make you ignore that debate.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Honestly, he needs a real through look, I want to look at the league leaders, but aside from scoring he still has to be up their as a leader in Yards from Scrimmage with a bye.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Yup, he's the number 1 in Yards from Scrimmage ahead of guys with 6 games like McCaffery, Taylor, Puka and JSN.
striker42
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Dude is amazingly good considering he's one of the slower wide outs in the league. He's never going to outrun a defender but that's not his game. He has a nose for holes in the zone and when to drop an anchor there. He also uses his body incredibly well to block out DBs, all of whom are smaller than him. He's willing to block too which just adds to his value.
He's like a skinny, WR version of Tony Gonzalez. Same skill set and cerebral play.
The non-Falcons comp I put on him is Keenan Allen. They're super similar. I'll even wager Allen is why Drake refused to run the 40 before the draft. Allen ran a 4.7 and fell two rounds. Drake didn't run and just said if he did it would be around 4.5 (which I don't believe at all). If he runs a 4.7 he's probably a second rounder.
Finally, his circus catch ability was over hyped. Not that he can't do it, he can. It's just not something that comes up a lot. He'll catch 30-40 balls by finding holes in the zone or blocking out a DB for every one circus catch.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I would comp him to Travis Kelce. Tony G was a great athlete. Hard to compare 40 times from back then to now because back then they didn't train on it. They just ran it. Now they have coaches who teach them how to shave 10ths of a second off. I don't think it's a coincidence that since 2000 combine times have gotten faster, the league has also gotten faster, but some of it is combine times. Jerry Rice ran a slow 40 but he was not slow, he didn't care.