REAL FOOTBALL Thread

gilesfan said:
The Redskins traded 3 firsts and got 1 in return. The Saints got 2 first devalued because it was 3-4 years later. And it was for a RB, which is retarded to trade for.
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Ricky Williams: Worse to trade for than an injury-prone, not-that-good QB.
 
RGIII trade in retrospect:

WSH: RGIII

STL: Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, Pead, R. Watkins, Ogletree, Stedman Bailey, Zac Stacy, Greg Robinson
 
gilesfan said:
lol, ok. You go it.

Sound butthurt that the Falcons are a loser franchise that has never actually won anything.

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Nice Strawman, giles.
 
gilesfan said:
The Redskins traded 3 firsts and got 1 in return. The Saints got 2 first devalued because it was 3-4 years later. And it was for a RB, which is retarded to trade for.
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Why does it matter when the first rounders were received? This isn't finance. We aren't depreciating intangibles assets like a first round pick, unless you have a valid reason as to why first round draft picks were less valuable in 2004 than they were in 2000.
 
why did the skins hire gruden in the first place, anyway? did they just learn RG3 wouldn't work in that system?
 
chop2chip said:
Why does it matter when the first rounders were received? This isn't finance. We aren't depreciating intangibles assets like a first round pick, unless you have a valid reason as to why first round draft picks were less valuable in 2004 than they were in 2000.
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The way teams view trades is that a pick in 2016 draft is worth less than a pick in the 2015 draft. It why you see a trade of a 3rd in 2016 being equal to a 2nd in 2015.
 
gilesfan said:
Is Jay Gruden really a name? Just a bad decision at the time.
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He is, he is Jon's brother and the last name carries weight, not saying it should but you think if his last name was Smith that he would've gotten the Washington job? I don't.
 
gilesfan said:
The way teams view trades is that a pick in 2016 draft is worth less than a pick in the 2015 draft. It why you see a trade of a 3rd in 2016 being equal to a 2nd in 2015.
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That's relevant when talking about general managers valuing the present year over a future year where they may not be employed by that same team. On a franchise level that argument is tainted.
 
gilesfan said:
At least I've seen 3 super bowls :) Would you trade that for 20 years of mediocrity?
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In my lifetime I haven't seen the Redskins appear in a Super Bowl. I have seen the Falcons appear in one and even win a few playoff games along the line, in addition to having generally pretty competitive teams the past 20 years.

The 80's were a long time ago. Definitely long enough where posting a picture of rings to distract from the present discussion of the **** storm of the RG3 era.
 
BRule said:
He is, he is Jon's brother and the last name carries weight, not saying it should but you think if his last name was Smith that he would've gotten the Washington job? I don't.
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Pedigree does carry in sports. Eli Manning was pretty good coming out of college, but not great. Rivers was vastly his superior on production, completing more passes, more Y/A more TDs less INTs, Giants traded a haul to move up to 1 and get Eli (obviously I know the trade happened after the picks) but they did that on name.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Raiders have cut Trent Richardson. I just cannot believe how much of a bust he has been. Watching his days at Alabama, I never saw this coming.
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Pretty crazy that he's busted so hard. What shocks me honestly is that he seems to have lost his vision, maybe it's a speed thing where the game moves faster in the bigs.
 
BRule said:
He is, he is Jon's brother and the last name carries weight, not saying it should but you think if his last name was Smith that he would've gotten the Washington job? I don't.
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same way jeb bush is a name. not for being great, but a name.
 
chop2chip said:
In my lifetime I haven't seen the Redskins appear in a Super Bowl. I have seen the Falcons appear in one and even win a few playoff games along the line, in addition to having generally pretty competitive teams the past 20 years.

The 80's were a long time ago. Definitely long enough where posting a picture of rings to distract from the present discussion of the **** storm of the RG3 era.
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and if i did this to him with the cowboys (which i never do to anyone) he'd be all over it.
 
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