REAL FOOTBALL Thread

Bdawg2309 said:
i hope he tears it up.. it'd be funny considering how atrocious he was for SD
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It took him 3 years to learn the playbook in NO. Highly doubt he gets more than 15 catches although most of them will be 20+ yards. He might be the only player to score a defensive touchdown without ever playing a down on defense.
 
Carp said:
Well then it must be true..... :roll:

According to the show, they said it was the fastest time of their analysis. Nowhere did it say they clocked every single play last yr. And as I said, all game situations are different. How many times does a QB break free in order to get up to top speed? Only an incredible homer would actually think RG3 is the fastest QB in the league. And I will guarantee there is no chance in hell that he is faster than Vick, even at Vick's age.
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Yeah but you're not thinking about pads. Kaepernick is so strong he gets faster in pads. It's a reverse gravity thing, you wouldn't get it.
 
zitothebrave said:
Yeah but you're not thinking about pads. Kaepernick is so strong he gets faster in pads. It's a reverse gravity thing, you wouldn't get it.
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No, its that he is able to maintain his speed in pads because of how much stronger he is than RG3.
 
Kaep is stronger and thicker..

He weighs more..

He is heavier..

If the weight of the pads is an issue..

The weight of Kaeps body is an issue?
 
GMAJAH25 said:
Kaep is stronger and thicker..

He weighs more..

He is heavier..

If the weight of the pads is an issue..

The weight of Kaeps body is an issue?
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We are starting from a baseline of what they run without pads on. So if you add the same weight to each player with pads on then a larger percentage of RG3's weight is being added as opposed to Kaep.
 
thethe said:
You do not understand simple physics if you don't think pads slow humans down.
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Football pads weigh about 12 pounds. Maybe a little less. I would severely doubt that small of a weight, would make up for the full tenth of a second difference in their 40 times. Maybe if Kaepernick didn't lift so much he would weigh less and run faster. Who knows.
 
thethe said:
We are starting from a baseline of what they run without pads on. So if you add the same weight to each player with pads on then a larger percentage of RG3's weight is being added as opposed to Kaep.
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Oh god, that's your logic? I know you you're a stat guy not a physics but I can't believe you think that.
 
zitothebrave said:
Football pads weigh about 12 pounds. Maybe a little less. I would severely doubt that small of a weight, would make up for the full tenth of a second difference in their 40 times. Maybe if Kaepernick didn't lift so much he would weigh less and run faster. Who knows.
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Kaep does not lift like a bodybuilder. He lifts for flexibility and does a lot of sprinting work. It sure didn't slow him down when he blew by defenders all year. I think he had the most long runs out of any QB last year and that was in limited action.

But, the point still remains. Pads slow humans down and the stronger a human is the less it will slow them down. Its just physics.
 
thethe said:
We are starting from a baseline of what they run without pads on. So if you add the same weight to each player with pads on then a larger percentage of RG3's weight is being added as opposed to Kaep.
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Its less than a percent difference..

Strong, your argument is not.
 
zitothebrave said:
Oh god, that's your logic? I know you you're a stat guy not a physics but I can't believe you think that.
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I actually considering going into physics because the math part of it was always easy for me. I just pursued Math in college because it was always the subject I loved.

Are you saying what I said is wrong?
 
LMAO Yeah the 12 pound pads slow RG3 down so much to make up for the over a full 10th of a second faster 40 RG3.

LMAO you're delusional.
 
thethe said:
But, the point still remains. Pads slow humans down and the stronger a human is the less it will slow them down. Its just physics.
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Strength doesnt overrule speed.

You cant prove that adding x amount of pounds slows someones speed more than the other persons.
 
zitothebrave said:
LMAO Yeah the 12 pound pads slow RG3 down so much to make up for the over a full 10th of a second faster 40 RG3.

LMAO you're delusional.
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First off, running a 40 is in a controlled situation while running on a football field is not controlled. Its not close to the same thing. Add in the additional weight from pads and you are beginning to normalize things. You can laugh at it all you want but these are real factors. That is why Kaep was clocked at teh fastest time last year. Obviously we don't know exactly how much they clocked but I'm sure before they did that segment they charted games from Cam and RG3.
 
What if this situation was flipped.

Say Kaep had a faster 40 time. But when comparing football speed the argument was since Kaep is already heavier...adding those "12" pounds would have a greater negative affect on the heavier athlete?
 
GMAJAH25 said:
Strength doesnt overrule speed.

You cant prove that adding x amount of pounds slows someones speed more than the other persons.
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If you are a stronger human being and you are adding less of a percentage of weight to your body then it will absolutely slow you down less. Again, it won't be a tenth of a second but there will be a closing of the gap.
 
GMAJAH25 said:
What if this situation was flipped.

Say Kaep had a faster 40 time. But when comparing football speed the argument was since Kaep is already heavier...adding those "12" pounds would have a greater negative affect on the heavier athlete?
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Not at all because they are adding less of a percentage weight to them. Plus, you can't say Kaepernick is not in as good of a shape as any other QB in the league. Maybe they are others who are in just as good of a shape but there is no way that anyone is above him.
 
Hopefully Kaep improved his mechanics and form when it comes to running. He could be faster with improved technique?

Thats what people always told me at least.
 
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