The percentage of starting RB's that were drafted out of the first round is probably much higher than the percentage of starting QB's taken outside the first round.
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The percentage of starting RB's that were drafted out of the first round is probably much higher than the percentage of starting QB's taken outside the first round.
Tapate50
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Brees on a bye for me this week. Here's hoping either Vick comes back or Henne lights up whoever they got.
Brees on a bye for me this week. Here's hoping either Vick comes back or Henne lights up whoever they got.
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The west divisions were both pretty bad in recent years. Now you could argue that both AFC and NFC west are the top divisions in football.
zitothebrave
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Let's test that, using FFtoolbox as my source
Cardinals - Mendenhall - 1st
Falcons - Jackson - 1st
Ravens - Rice - 2nd
Bills - Spiller - 1st
Panthers - DeAngelo Williams - 1st
Bears - Forte - 2nd
Bengals - Bernard - 2nd
Browns - McGehee - 1st
Cowboys - Murray - 3rd
Broncos - Moreno - 1st
Lions - Bush - 1st
Packers - Lacy - 2nd
Texans - Foster - und
Colts - Richardson - 1st
Jags - MJD - 2nd
Cheifs - Charles - 3rd
Phins - Miller - 4th
Vikings - AP - 1st
Pats - Ridley - 3rd
Saints - Sproles - 4th
Giants - Wilson - 1st
Jets - Powell - 4th
Raiders - McFadden - 1st
Eagles - McCoy - 2nd
Steelers - Bell - 2nd
Chargers - Woodhead - und
Seachickens - Lynch - 1st
Niners - Gore - 3rd
Rmas - Stacy - 5th
Bucs - Martin - 1st
Titans - Johnson - 1st
Skins - Morris - 6th
So the breakdown by round
1st - 14
2nd - 7
3rd - 4
4th - 3
5th - 1
6th - 1
7th - 0
Undrafted - 2
So 43.8% of the starting RBs i nthe NFL are 1st rounders
Compare to QBs
Cards - Palmer - 1st
Falcons - Ryan - 1st
Ravens - Flacco - 1st
Bills - Manuel - 1st
Panties - Newton - 1st
Bears - Cutler - 1st
Bengals - Dalton - 2nd
Browns - Weeden - 1st
Cowboys - Romo - Und
Broncos - Peyton - 1st
Lions - Stafford - 1st
Packers - Rodgers - 1st
Texans - Schaub - 3rd
Colts - Luck - 1st
Jags - Henne - 2nd
Chiefs - Smith - 1st
Phins - Tannehill - 1st
Vikings - Freeman - 1st
Pats - Brady - 6th
Saints - Brees - 2nd
Giants - Eli - 1st
Jets - Smith - 2nd
Raiders - Pryor - 3rd
Eagles - Foles - 3rd
Stellers - Rapelisberger - 1st
Chargers - Rivers - 1st
Seahawks - Wilson - 3rd
Niners - Kaepernick - 2nd
Rams - Bradford - 1st
Bucs - Glennon - 3rd
Titans - Locker - 1st
Skins - RG3 1st
So yeah QBs have a pretty nice sized edge with a 62..5 But the consensus is largely the same, the best way to get a starter is in the first round whether it's a WR, RB, OT, QB, DE, DT, etc.
zitothebrave
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It's because pretty much anyone is way better than Norvall Turner.
David Wilson isn't the starting running back anymore and Michael Vick is the Eagles actual starter and isn't playing due to injury. Before you say the same thing about Wilson it was clear that he wasn't going to be the starter because of his fumbling issue and lack of vision.
So that makes the numbers even more stark. Its pointless to draft a running back in the first round. Just a horrible decision for any franchise.
zitothebrave
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You think unless Foles gets hurt or totally tanks the Eagles will put Vick back in?
And Wilson is listed as the starter, complain about the depth chart
You draft the best player, and the best place to get a RB is outside of the top 10. Aside from the rare talent (like Peterson) you don't draft too high. And that's because of their short careers.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I cited my source, you can argue with it.
Even with those sliding another way, more RBs are taken in the 1st round than any other round and it's pretty obvious
And its obviously a big mistake considering shelf life.
zitothebrave
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Lol, thethe more knowledgeable than most GMs in the NFL.
You always second guess roster moves as well. But you are the expert because of that one Eagles practice.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I don't second guess general NFL knowledge.
IIRC you were slobbing Reese's knob a few years ago, and he took a RB in the first round. While I would hope the Falcons wouldn't take a RB high, I wouldn't question that strategy.
Never did. I think Reese is overrated. He inherited a great roster in his first SB win. Made some good draft picks but his overall personal moves have not been good.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Hmmm, me thinks you remember the past wrong. I don't recall what it was about, but I believe it had something to do with the Giants ability to get DE and WR originally and then you went bonkers loving on him.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Zito - missing the point since whenever it was that he was born.
The point is, RBs are not wise 1st round picks. How many of those guys were actually worth a 1st rounder, relative to types of players drafted after them?
I would say, in hindsight, Mendenhall, Moreno, Bush, Richardson, Wilson, and McFadden were not worth 1st round picks based on production. Reggie Bush was the 2nd overall pick and never really lived up to it, even though he's much better now than when first drafted.
I also never said anything about QBs, so don't strawman me. I don't think QBs are worth taking in the first round unless they're like Luck, RG3, etc.
No one is arguing that the 1st round is the best palce to get talent. Who the hell said that? You completely changed the argument. With the shelf-life of RBs, the fact that pretty much EVERY team wil use 2 or more throughout the season, unless they're AP or Lynch productive, they aren't worth a first rounder. Richardson will probably never prove to be worth a 1st round pick. The NFL is a passing league. Run games are important, but a lot of other positions are more important.
The point is, RBs are not wise 1st round picks. How many of those guys were actually worth a 1st rounder, relative to types of players drafted after them?
I would say, in hindsight, Mendenhall, Moreno, Bush, Richardson, Wilson, and McFadden were not worth 1st round picks based on production. Reggie Bush was the 2nd overall pick and never really lived up to it, even though he's much better now than when first drafted.
I also never said anything about QBs, so don't strawman me. I don't think QBs are worth taking in the first round unless they're like Luck, RG3, etc.
No one is arguing that the 1st round is the best palce to get talent. Who the hell said that? You completely changed the argument. With the shelf-life of RBs, the fact that pretty much EVERY team wil use 2 or more throughout the season, unless they're AP or Lynch productive, they aren't worth a first rounder. Richardson will probably never prove to be worth a 1st round pick. The NFL is a passing league. Run games are important, but a lot of other positions are more important.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Notice how few RBs have been drafted early the last few years? You missing that trend buddy?
Originally Posted by gilesfan
Boldin Davis. WTF?
originally Posted by thethe
Do you realize that Davis is playing at like 50%?
THe funny thing is, just 1-2 weeks prior, thethe said this masterpiece:
Kaep will be a monster if those two come back healthy. He basically has a 75% Davis and Boldin.
So, thethe's timeline goes Davis is 75%. Then 1-2 weeks later he is 50%. Then a week later he is still hampered by injuries despite running past Ed Reed and the entire defense for like 70 yards. Then 1 week after that he goes for 170 in the first half and thethe states something about "you know guys get healthy with time"
So, what percentage is Davis now?
Browns tried to correct that mistake real quick as well and the Colts are going to end up regretting it.