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BRule said:
Plus the question he was asked was innocent and he just snapped lol.
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This was what it was in response to:

“I supported you in 2012, then came the self glorification in 2013. I am in hopes that this does not continue to occur in 2014.” And: “Why not dress like the rest of the TEAM versus dressing to bring attention to yourself. I just don’t get it.”

I wish he wouldn't respond at all, think all the backlash (some probably true, some outlandish) finally got to him. (This was actually a facebook post on Friday that was a non story until someone tweeted it to one of the local douchebags. He wants to be liked by the local media, but they are vultures that prop him up when they win (2012), but turn their back quick (2013). There was even a story that RG3 "came out of the closet." Another one that his Dad was meeting with Snyder and getting Art Briles to be coach. It's gotten ridiculous in D.C. The Twitter/Facebook era means you get a lot more of athletes responding directly to fans, which is not a good thing for the NFL. He didn't even say anything bad in his facebook post, yet its gotten to be a big story.

John Keim, as usual has a good take:

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4813/quick-takes-rg-iii-and-more

I’m trying to work up the outrage over Robert Griffin III’s Facebook post in his comments thread in reply to a fan because I think I should feel like it was wrong, that he shouldn’t have said anything. A big part of me definitely says don’t worry what critics -- fans or media -- say. You can’t win everyone over so don’t even try; be yourself and move forward. As he discovered this year more than any other: not everyone will love you. And this could be part of a larger issue for Griffin. I get that very much. (I also know the fan liked his reply as did many others. So does it even matter?)

But this is who he is. Griffin is a very public kid. It enabled him to connect with fans on a more personal level before he even arrived in Washington. It’s partly why the love affair existed a year ago. Yes, it was about his game, about the hope he provided for the future. But it was also about his personality. He brought with him a swagger that people loved, from the elbow sleeve to the braids to the confidence. There will be good and bad with that; now some of those same things are scorned. Griffin needs to mature, but he’s not Russell Wilson or Andrew Luck and never will be.

Still: lay low. At this point he has to know that everything he does will become news. Maybe this isn’t what he wanted, at least not to this extreme. But this is his reality, so he must adjust accordingly. But he also didn’t say anything that was bad in his post.

What Griffin needs to do this offseason more than anything is buy into what Jay Gruden is selling offensively, realize he needs to improve in all facets and then work on his game. He also needs to understand that, while some of the stories about him were over the top, there are kernals of truth. A dose of humility can be good and perhaps given time to reflect on the season, rather than worrying about rehabbing his knee, personal gain will follow. No one can assume that just because Mike and Kyle Shanahan are gone that all will be golden again.

If he improves, and if the Redskins win, watch how fast the narrative will change regarding him. But that’s the key: Griffin has to improve and the Redskins have to win. Maturing in other ways will help him improve. I think we’ll learn a lot about Griffin this offseason.

I agree with Herm Edwards who said on ESPN980 Monday that, “I think too much was put on this young guy’s plate.” That is true both on the field and off.
 
Don't know much about Caldwell... Lions fans are pissed. I can't see anything on the surface to make me think he is a bad hire though
 
sturg33 said:
Why?
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He likes to call timeouts to set up fgs for the other team:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/09/jim-caldwells-timeout-explanation-doesnt-make-sense/

or:

In his first full year at the helm for the Ravens, Caldwell’s offense fell apart; the Ravens were 25th in points scored, 30th in DVOA, and nearly became one of the few teams since the merger to average fewer than 3.0 yards per carry. Flacco, who had put together an astounding 11-touchdown, zero-interception Super Bowl run, threw 22 interceptions in his worst season as a pro.
 
BRule said:
Good hire, it's a shame that he got ran out of Indy like he did.
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He has done nothing to impress me. We'll see how he does. His only year without Peyton though, he was epically bad. And you can argue he made questionable decisions in playoff games as well.
 
gilesfan said:
He likes to call timeouts to set up fgs for the other team:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/09/jim-caldwells-timeout-explanation-doesnt-make-sense/

or:

In his first full year at the helm for the Ravens, Caldwell’s offense fell apart; the Ravens were 25th in points scored, 30th in DVOA, and nearly became one of the few teams since the merger to average fewer than 3.0 yards per carry. Flacco, who had put together an astounding 11-touchdown, zero-interception Super Bowl run, threw 22 interceptions in his worst season as a pro.
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Yeah - the timeout think... I remember when Joe Gibbs tried to call 2 timeouts in a row... Even I knew you weren't allowed to do that. Cost them the game. Point is, everyone does something stupid.

The Ravens were awful this year. It could have something to do with their Offensive Line being decimated with injuries. They were quite good when Caldwell took over in 2012 en route to the Super Bowl.

Lastly, his year without Manning is hardly an indication of a bad coaching job. The backups were grabage and the Defense ranked 26th in the league. You can only win with talent (enen though Zito tells me every team is loaded with talent).

I'm not thrilled with the hire, I wanted to go get Shaw from Stanford. But he is getting some hate that I'm not sure I understand. If you're big beef with him is a timeout debacle, well I'm sure we can find one on every coach.
 
Heyward said:
Because he's an awful HC?
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1 timeout doesn't make him an awful coach....Polian killed that team with how he put it together, the fact that he won 2 games with Painter and Orv is rather impressive.

The Ravens O is trash, Flacco had a fluke run and they paid him and killed their franchise with that contract.
 
BRule said:
1 timeout doesn't make him an awful coach....Polian killed that team with how he put it together, the fact that he won 2 games with Painter and Orv is rather impressive.

The Ravens O is trash, Flacco had a fluke run and they paid him and killed their franchise with that contract.
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Now he had a fluke run yet you defended him like crazy in last years playoffs.
 
Heyward said:
Now he had a fluke run yet you defended him like crazy in last years playoffs.
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He got paid like 120 mil......I would say things changed, no?

Flacco is an average QB with a huge arm, I would take him in TB but not for what Baltimore gave him.
 
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