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Not just bleacher report but a horribly written article. i've discussed ad nauseum Kaepernick's arm and it's not legendary. He has a great arm, but he's not even the best in the game.
 
Not just bleacher report but a horribly written article. i've discussed ad nauseum Kaepernick's arm and it's not legendary. He has a great arm, but he's not even the best in the game.

Hard to grade out one arm against the other. But, Phil Sims who is more qualified then you seems to think its right up there with anyone.

Don't you think that Sports Science stuff gives great insight into measureable ability?
 
It does, Kaeprnick at the combine threw at a velocity of 59 mph, other QBs with the same velocity at the combine, Weeden, Cousins, Bray, Dysert, many others close, and that's obviously excluding the tippy top prospects not throwing (luck, RG3, Scam, etc.)

Kaepernick has great talent, but the exageration is just that, exageration. Maybe he'll finally be the QB of the future the NFL has been wanting for years, or maybe he'll be just like all the rest and leave you wanting some more.
 
It does, Kaeprnick at the combine threw at a velocity of 59 mph, other QBs with the same velocity at the combine, Weeden, Cousins, Bray, Dysert, many others close, and that's obviously excluding the tippy top prospects not throwing (luck, RG3, Scam, etc.)

Kaepernick has great talent, but the exageration is just that, exageration. Maybe he'll finally be the QB of the future the NFL has been wanting for years, or maybe he'll be just like all the rest and leave you wanting some more.

What about him being clocked at the highest velocity of any QB in 2012? I mean, there is a lot of data that makes Kaep look freakish. Its not just one piece. Thats why people talk like this about him.

Then there is the statistical measures. Small sample size obvoiusly but everything is there. Top 5 DVOA/QBR since he started and the one I like the best is highest percentage completion rate of deep passes. Its just a lot to like but of course he needs to do it for longer.
 
Wilson > Kap?

I don't think so just because of size. Size does matter with QB's. I think Kaep is also more athletic. But, Wilson has a larger sample to show his ability and did a hell of a job. He is ahead of Kaep right now but I think that will change this year.
 
Very bullish on Wilson this year. Maybe more so than Kap if Im drafting... Both will have their down games when the running game takes over. Our long standing league allows you to play a QB at the OP spot and its a huge advantage. Id really have to consider all the dual threat guys and take the good games with the bad and live with it.
 
I don't think so just because of size. Size does matter with QB's. I think Kaep is also more athletic. But, Wilson has a larger sample to show his ability and did a hell of a job. He is ahead of Kaep right now but I think that will change this year.

Even without Crabtree for a good chunk of the year?

Seattle's offense is ridiculous, now with Harvin and of course their running game lead by Beast Mode and the other weapons they have.
 
Even without Crabtree for a good chunk of the year?

Seattle's offense is ridiculous, now with Harvin and of course their running game lead by Beast Mode and the other weapons they have.

Crabs was great but he was not the only weapon they have. The thing I'm wondering is how they are going to adjust without Walker. He and Kaep had a nice connection going.

Either way, there are three really good running backs and still a nice collection of pass catchers (Boldin/Davis/Williams) and then hopefully the young guys step up like Jenkins/Patton/McDonald.
 
Very bullish on Wilson this year. Maybe more so than Kap if Im drafting... Both will have their down games when the running game takes over. Our long standing league allows you to play a QB at the OP spot and its a huge advantage. Id really have to consider all the dual threat guys and take the good games with the bad and live with it.

Not down on either, but probably Kap a little more b/c of the losses of Walker/Crabtree for who knows how long.

But they do have some younger guys who will get time, so we'll see how good Kap is.
 
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