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Nick Bosa won DPOY LOL

Listen, he's a good player. But he was shut the **** out when he faced a good OL. Myles Garrett and Micah Parsons were better edge rushers, I'd also throw Chris Jones and Dexter Lawrence inthere. Others who're close include Aaron Donald and BObby Wagner.
 
Carp said:
Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben. I'm taking Russell Wilson and Stafford over him too.
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Russell Wilson last year proved he was a farce when he couldn't hack it outside of Seattle.

Stafford isn't sniffing Ryan yet, he may wind up there, but he is a poor man's Brett Favre.
 
zitothebrave said:
Russell Wilson last year proved he was a farce when he couldn't hack it outside of Seattle.

Stafford isn't sniffing Ryan yet, he may wind up there, but he is a poor man's Brett Favre.
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Matt Ryan proved he couldn't hack it outside of Atl. Is he a farce?

Wilson played most of last season hurt with an obviously terrible coach. Let's see what he can do with Payton before we write him off. Regardless, he's been better than Ryan through the same age and has a SB ring with another SB appearance. Had they run the ball with Marshawn, he would have 2 rings and this wouldn't even be an argument, but I digress.

Stafford is within 10k yards and 50 TDs and is 3 years younger. He's on a better pace than Ryan AND has a ring. I would pretty much guarantee you most sports writers view Stafford as the better QB at this point in their careers.

And this also makes no mention of Mahomes who is on pace to shatter every single record there is. He could legit surpass Matt Ryan in TD passes within 5 years. If he wins Sunday and retired the next day, he most likely still makes the HOF on the first ballot.

You could easily make the argument Ryan is barely top 10 since 2000.
 
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Carp said:
Matt Ryan proved he couldn't hack it outside of Atl. Is he a farce?

Wilson played most of last season hurt with an obviously terrible coach. Let's see what he can do with Payton before we write him off. Regardless, he's been better than Ryan through the same age and has a SB ring with another SB appearance. Had they run the ball with Marshawn, he would have 2 rings and this wouldn't even be an argument, but I digress.

Stafford is within 10k yards and 50 TDs and is 3 years younger. He's on a better pace than Ryan AND has a ring. I would pretty much guarantee you most sports writers view Stafford as the better QB at this point in their careers.

And this also makes no mention of Mahomes who is on pace to shatter every single record there is. He could legit surpass Matt Ryan in TD passes within 5 years. If he wins Sunday and retires the next, he most likely still makes the HOF on the first ballot.

You could easily make the argument Ryan is barely top 10 since 2000.
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Ryan has had a collection of different coaches, head, QB, OC etc. in Atlanta. Nice straw man.

Wilson's teams in Seattle were much better than any team Ryan had. Ryan had better offensivee weapons for sure. But Wilson won it with Marshawn, Tate, Baldwin, and Kearse all solid weapons. But really they won it because of their legendary defense. If Matt Ryan had a defense with Bobby Wagner, Cam Chancellor, Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman, Maxwell, Michael Bennett, etc.
 
zitothebrave said:
Nick Bosa won DPOY LOL

Listen, he's a good player. But he was shut the **** out when he faced a good OL. Myles Garrett and Micah Parsons were better edge rushers, I'd also throw Chris Jones and Dexter Lawrence inthere. Others who're close include Aaron Donald and BObby Wagner.
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Bosa deserved it. He had a hell of a year, and this is a RS award, not one for the playoffs.
 
Andy Reid is one of the few guys in the NFL no matter what team you root cor you can't root against him. Glad he got two and this one against his old organization.
 
Awful call but Eagles defense was horrible in the 2nd half. You cant call that but plenty of plays before that lost them the game.
 
It's wasn't an awful call. It's just probably not the right call to make in that moment. It was definitely a hold, but was very ticky tacky. Just feels like we were robbed an epic comeback attempt and potential OT.
 
I think if Mahomes hadn't thrown the ball to the receiver that was held, it wouldn't have been called> You could argue that the receiver may have had a play on the ball if he wasn't held.
 
Mahomes saw the hold immediately and threw the ball just out of the reach to where it couldn't get picked off but where it wasn't close enough incase the flag wasn't called.

That is just football IQ by Mahomes.
 
By the way, if Mahomes decided to retire tomorrow, he would still be a no doubt HOFER. His career would be more impressive in 5 years than in Matt Ryan's 15 year career.
 
Mahomes got lucky they played the second best team in NFC.

Eagles aren’t that impressive but maybe hurts continues to improve as an actual QB and not just a great deep ball guy
 
thethe said:
Mahomes got lucky they played the second best team in NFC.

Eagles aren’t that impressive but maybe hurts continues to improve as an actual QB and not just a great deep ball guy
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Eagles drummed your ass. Chiefs would have too. Niners were not as good as you think they were.
 
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