Remember I was the idiot....the troll

Millwood1Hitter

Anytime Now Frankie...
How do you like me now?

Remember, I was the negative Nancy, the one worried over nothing, this team was going to be ok win 90 games, I was the moron, I was the idiot, I was the troll. Even when we were winning a lot of games on the backs of the pitching staff and Freeman, I was told shut up, this team is good and will compete.

The first week of the season I said the team looked bored, uninterested, and off like no other Braves team that I have seen recently.

May 3rd

"No other way to explain it. Too many incompetent hitters that are free swingers and have terrible comprehension of the strike zone. A bullpen that has been the best in baseball over the past few, has no reliable options outside of Kimbrel. Terrible defensively at key positions outside of RF and SS. The worst in game decision maker in the game in Fredi who has absolutely no clue.

The only chance you stand at even remotely winning games here and there is that the starters need to go out there and pitch 7-8 innings of shutout or 1 run baseball, and even though, besides the last week, that's what we have gotten out of our rotation, that is too much to ask for. We're asking that out of a career journeyman that is inconsistant, a group of young studs that are capable but shouldn't be put into that situation and it will wear on them, and a piece of garbage that should be released or put in the pen to be an innings eater.

This team will be out of first place in no time, and be lucky to finish fourth in the division."

I'll admit I was wrong on Harang, and pleasantly surprised at his performance this year. I'm disappointed because if we had any semblence of offense this could have been a good team with a good record, but I feel for our pitchers and I think Ervin described it all so well yesterday.

Changes are apparent, they need to be made. I've always been a big Wren supporter and believed he did a good job more often than not despite a few moves that didn't go according to plan, but if there is this much discord amonst the FO, then he needs to go. We heard back in the late 90's of similiar things happening in Baltimore when he was head man there, so it is disturbing and certainly a trend.

And I always got the feeling that Bobby was forced out by Wren, we know they collided on a few matters during their tenure together. I have no evidence but just a feeling, and as class a guy as Bobby is I did find it interesting that he did not mention Frank at all during his HOF speech. Fredi probably was brought in to be nothing more than a yes man to Wren.

But if Wren ultimately is the fall man, and it appears he will be, Fredi needs to go and hope whoever is Wren's replacement makes that move as quick as possible because although he is Bobby's man, Fredi is one of the most incompatant managers I have ever seen.
 
No reason to gloat. I was with you 100 percent of the way. Hopefully today embarks changes that will get this team pointed in the right direction.

We are all still fans and let's remmeber that.
 
So if you declare the team is terrible every single year, and just so happen to get it right once, did you really correctly predict anything? Or is the broken clock just right twice a day?
 
Hey now, you were not the only one. And I think you are spot on about Wren and Bobby. I think the rift started in 2008 with Glavine and later with the Smoltz departure. I often wondered why Bobby hung it up when he did. With Freeman, Heyward, and CK on the rise it made little sense. I. too feel vindicated. I got told I knew nothing of baseball, accused of Nats fandom and everything else. This team is just a bad mix of young talented players and guys that wouldn't put team first if it bit them in the a--.
 
Hey now, you were not the only one. And I think you are spot on about Wren and Bobby. I think the rift started in 2008 with Glavine and later with the Smoltz departure. I often wondered why Bobby hung it up when he did. With Freeman, Heyward, and CK on the rise it made little sense. I. too feel vindicated. I got told I knew nothing of baseball, accused of Nats fandom and everything else. This team is just a bad mix of young talented players and guys that wouldn't put team first if it bit them in the a--.

Wait, you mean you guys aren't the same person?

I gotta start paying closer attention.
 
Matt,
It's just baseball. I am surprised that anybody on this board honestly thought that we had a shot at a championship with this team. Early in the year with Uggla and BJ in there we were down two hitters to start. Then Uggla goes and Simmons falls off. No manager could get this group to the playoffs. Last year we benefited from the East being down and CJ having a career year.
 
Are you really happy that you were right? Wouldn't it be better if you were wrong?

I wish I was wrong. Dead wrong. I'm a Braves fan first and foremost. We've had some damn good teams throughout the years, but despite all the regular season success there are a lot of painful memories. We haven't finished on top since 1995, almost 20 years ago and we haven't made it out of the first round since 2001. Think about that.

That being said, there was always Bobby, Chipper, Smoltzie, etc. and all those teams that weren't so good (2008, etc.) that still went out there and played hard and left it all on the line.

I looked forward to spring training this year, thought we had a good team but not as good as last. Was mainly concerned about 2 gapping holes in the lineup as well as a weakened bullpen, then the slough of injuries to the starters in spring training. But I thought we had a good team that could potentially contend in the east if a lot of things broke our way, or contend for a WC berth.

But I could tell, even though we we're winning early in the year, something was off with this team. This team was not fun to watch. The players looked uninterested for the most part. They weren't having fun. Our pitching once again was phenominal, but something was off. This team did not lay it all on the line. My worst fears came to fruition.

We'll have teams in our franchise history that have had worse years win and loss wise, hell even the collapse and embarassment of 2011 but I am ashamed of this team and their effort this year. From start to finish, this year was a lost cause, basically a dud, and it's already in my rearview mirror. Let's hope that Hart, JS, and Bobby can get things fixed and get this once proud organization and team back on track and headed in the right direction.
 
Many of us have been wrong about things this year. I've been wrong about everything I thought would happen.

Was wrong about Fredi, Wren not getting canned, and how this team was going to perform.

Sucks....
 
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