Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

thethe said:
Which you were obviously wrong about since McCabe was effectively fired for wrongdoing.
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1. If the NYT reporter is correct that something in the IG's findings caused him to be demoted, we'll find out about it soon enough. Could be substantial or quite meh. Could be relevant or not.

2. Either way, that fact alone doesn't justify the capillary-bursting histrionics about Deep State leftist plots. You'd need to find some more plotters (like most of the senior leadership of the FBI and DoJ and some judges) in order to do that. Heck, you'd need to find some leftists, too.
 
Julio3000 said:
I don't think you understand "the warrant" you're talking about.
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I don't look at subsequent renewals as different from the first. Without that Dossier the investigation is nowhere. Even with the Dossier you still have not found a shred of actual evidence there was collusion. Just speculation. On the other side we have clear negligence and criminal activity at the FBI. Which one would a rational person think is more practical at this point in time? I wonder...
 
Julio3000 said:
1. If the NYT reporter is correct that something in the IG's findings caused him to be demoted, we'll find out about it soon enough. Could be substantial or quite meh. Could be relevant or not.

2. Either way, that fact alone doesn't justify the capillary-bursting histrionics about Deep State leftist plots. You'd need to find some more plotters (like most of the senior leadership of the FBI and DoJ and some judges) in order to do that. Heck, you'd need to find some leftists, too.
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We already have NUMEROUS people in the DOJ/FBI that were connected to this investigation. If you indeed would be willing to accept the fact there were a few dirty agents how easy would that be to keep from the rest of the bureau top level? Even if they weren't aware there is very ltitle chance all of these events could be executed the way they were. Its far more likely at this point there was a larger conspiracy than nothing at all.
 
thethe said:
I don't look at subsequent renewals as different from the first. Without that Dossier the investigation is nowhere. Even with the Dossier you still have not found a shred of actual evidence there was collusion. Just speculation. On the other side we have clear negligence and criminal activity at the FBI. Which one would a rational person think is more practical at this point in time? I wonder...
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Again, you're pinning the entire investigation on the continuation of an existing FISA warrant to perform surveillance on Carter Page.

And, on "the other side," you have clear negligence and criminal activity at the FBI? Really? What have I missed?
 
thethe said:
I don't look at subsequent renewals as different from the first. Without that Dossier the investigation is nowhere. Even with the Dossier you still have not found a shred of actual evidence there was collusion. Just speculation. On the other side we have clear negligence and criminal activity at the FBI. Which one would a rational person think is more practical at this point in time? I wonder...
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It's interesting that you think "not a shred of actual evidence" of collusion while with only innuendo about the memo so far call it "clear evidence and criminal activity".

Are you aware of how tainted your views are?
 
Let's remember that the memo itself is evidence of a conspiracy of the GOP to stall/discredit/end/obstruct the FBI investigation
 
Runnin said:
It's interesting that you think "not a shred of actual evidence" of collusion while with only innuendo about the memo so far call it "clear evidence and criminal activity".

Are you aware of how tainted your views are?
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The criminal behavior has to do with the handling of the Clinton investigation. At least the criminal activity I'm referring to. That is indisputable with what is known at this time and I'd love to see an argument opposing that thought
 
Runnin said:
Let's remember that the memo itself is evidence of a conspiracy of the GOP to stall/discredit/end/obstruct the FBI investigation
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And if it is strictly fact based against the ten of thousands of documents reviewed by the house?
 
Julio3000 said:
Again, you're pinning the entire investigation on the continuation of an existing FISA warrant to perform surveillance on Carter Page.

And, on "the other side," you have clear negligence and criminal activity at the FBI? Really? What have I missed?
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Can't believe you would debate that second point with all we know about the HRC investigation.
 
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