Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

Garmel said:
Yeah, good luck with that. The "scandals" you cite are politically driven nonsense. Barr never had hints of corruption in his long career until he started going after anti-Trump corruption.
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You sure about that? Guess who set up a phone survelience program of innocent Americans phone calls in 1992? He was nicknamed "Coverup-General" in 1992. Trump was bankrupting Casinos around this time I believe. He also advocated for pardons of 6 people related to the Iran-Contra scandal to avoid Bush Sr having to testify.
 
cajunrevenge said:
You sure about that? Guess who set up a phone survelience program of innocent Americans phone calls in 1992? He was nicknamed "Coverup-General" in 1992. Trump was bankrupting Casinos around this time I believe. He also advocated for pardons of 6 people related to the Iran-Contra scandal to avoid Bush Sr having to testify.
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All of which was not illegal. They were only monitoring international calls. "That data collection was "one of the most important and effective Federal drug law enforcement initiatives," the Justice Department said in a 1998 letter to Sprint asking the telecom giant to turn over its call records"

However, if you want to go over corrupt AGs we could have a blast with what Holder did in office.
 
Garmel said:
All of which was not illegal. They were only monitoring international calls. "That data collection was "one of the most important and effective Federal drug law enforcement initiatives," the Justice Department said in a 1998 letter to Sprint asking the telecom giant to turn over its call records"

However, if you want to go over corrupt AGs we could have a blast with what Holder did in office.
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You realize none of what you say is going to matter
The truth is obvious to the non loon population. This was thr biggest scandal in American history.

At first it was the FBI didnt spy on the campaign.

Then it was there is no bias in the investigation.

Then it was of course people have internal biases but it didn't interfere with the investigation.

Somehow the point of Obama wasn't involved in any of these decisions.

And now we are finally to the point knowing he literally ran the operation and told agents to pursue an absurd law nobody uses despite the leadership of thr FBI saying there wasnt really anything wrong with the call.

I am shocked that people are ok with this but in the Era of TDS it doesn't matter.

Hussein was the worst and most corrupt president of all time. There isn't even a debate about it anymore.
 
thethe said:
You realize none of what you say is going to matter
The truth is obvious to the non loon population. This was thr biggest scandal in American history.

At first it was the FBI didnt spy on the campaign.

Then it was there is no bias in the investigation.

Then it was of course people have internal biases but it didn't interfere with the investigation.

Somehow the point of Obama wasn't involved in any of these decisions.

And now we are finally to the point knowing he literally ran the operation and told agents to pursue an absurd law nobody uses despite the leadership of thr FBI saying there wasnt really anything wrong with the call.

I am shocked that people are ok with this but in the Era of TDS it doesn't matter.

Hussein was the worst and most corrupt president of all time. There isn't even a debate about it anymore.
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You're right. I'm just wasting time here.
 
The real messed up thing is allying with russia would have been a brilliant move. China knew this and sent their lapdogs to make it politically infeasible.

Now instead of a US/Russia/India/Australia alliance to reign the evil CCP in we are fractured and made the CCP more viable.

It all comes back to China and the Obama administrarion loving tyrants.
 
Someone once argued with me that Jose Lima was a better pitcher than Greg Maddux. This was after the year Lima won 21 games. Maddux only won 19. Winning is the point of the game. Thus Lima was better. Nothing I could say. No amount of logic could convince him. He was from Houston. He was an Astros fan. Arguing with you two reminds me a lot of this. It doesnt matter that I can point to numerous convictions including guilty pleas and multiple confessions from the Trump admin. You cant even point to a single indictment to backup your "facts". All we can do to resolve this is wait, but dont use the excuse that Trump lost so now they cant indict them. Trump has atleast 6 more months even if he loses. Trump cant be indicted until after he is out of office so feel free to start your watch there. Lets see whose indictments come in and whose dont.
 
Garmel said:
All of which was not illegal. They were only monitoring international calls. "That data collection was "one of the most important and effective Federal drug law enforcement initiatives," the Justice Department said in a 1998 letter to Sprint asking the telecom giant to turn over its call records"

However, if you want to go over corrupt AGs we could have a blast with what Holder did in office.
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Please do go over Holder. Not sure why I would care. Should probably take it out on someone who voted for Obama like little thethe.
 
Chris Murphy
@ChrisMurphyCT
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7h
Here’s what we learned today:

Trump found out Russia paid bounties to Taliban fighters to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan.

He seriously considered asking them to stop.

He decided to not ask them to stop.

Chew on that for a sec.
 
57Brave said:
Chris Murphy
@ChrisMurphyCT
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7h
Here’s what we learned today:

Trump found out Russia paid bounties to Taliban fighters to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan.

He seriously considered asking them to stop.

He decided to not ask them to stop.

Chew on that for a sec.
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Yes, that's so much worse than Obama not listening to his FBI and ordering a fake investigation into the opposition candidate that was becoming president.

Damn, you cracked the code.
 
thethe said:
Yes, that's so much worse than Obama not listening to his FBI and ordering a fake investigation into the opposition candidate that was becoming president.

Damn, you cracked the code.
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Why don’t you care about the troops?
 
1) Did anyone notice that many of the articles on this topic said they are not sure the Russian government itself(Putin/Kremlin) may have known about this operation that this Russian spy unit was doing? 2) Is this news story even getting the facts straight in the first place? Let's wait and see, shall we?

Edit- Russia is denying it but I wouldn't take their word for it either.
 
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Garmel said:
1) Did anyone notice that many of the articles on this topic said they are not sure the Russian government itself(Putin/Kremlin) may have known about this operation that this Russian spy unit was doing? 2) Is this news story even getting the facts straight in the first place? Let's wait and see, shall we?

Edit- Russia is denying it but I wouldn't take their word for it either.
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"Putin said he didn't know about it. I take him at his word."
 
Garmel said:
1) Did anyone notice that many of the articles on this topic said they are not sure the Russian government itself(Putin/Kremlin) may have known about this operation that this Russian spy unit was doing? 2) Is this news story even getting the facts straight in the first place? Let's wait and see, shall we?

Edit- Russia is denying it but I wouldn't take their word for it either.
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I don’t think anything happens in Russia without Putin knowing.
 
Ben Rhodes
@brhodes

1. I have trouble believing it, but as someone who got the presidential daily briefing for more than 7 years the idea that a POTUS wouldn’t be briefed on a Russian bounty on US troops is even more alarming.

2. Given the hundreds of pieces of intel that would be briefed to him in this period, did the intel community think Trump wouldn’t care? That strikes at the heart of his responsibility as commander in chief.

3. Did they think he wouldn’t do anything in response or wouldn’t want to be bothered? That raises questions about whether he cares about our troops.

4. Did they think it would create political problems for him? That raises questions about the politicization of the intelligence community’s role.

5. Did they think he would be compromised by his affinity for Putin? That’s, well, chilling.

6. The DNI for much of this time was also the Ambassador to Germany. Trump annnounced a withdrawal of US troops from Germany. What’s up with that? That’s a gift to Putin.

7. There’s no greater purpose for our national security apparatus than protecting our troops. How could they fail this spectacularly if they kept this from the President?

8. The trump people may think they’re protecting Trump by saying he didn’t know but that’s far more damning. Who is looking out for our troops if not the Commander in Chief?

9. Also. Mitch McConnell. What does he think about all this? As he’s facilitating Russian interference in the 2020 election.
 
Weird how these anonymous sources come up with sstories right around when big reveals about how Obama committed treason.

Eat it up sheep.
 
Garmel said:
All of which was not illegal. They were only monitoring international calls. "That data collection was "one of the most important and effective Federal drug law enforcement initiatives," the Justice Department said in a 1998 letter to Sprint asking the telecom giant to turn over its call records"

However, if you want to go over corrupt AGs we could have a blast with what Holder did in office.
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love that this was typed in THIS thread
 
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