Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

I dont know what's illegal about trying to build a hotel in Moscow." Rand Paul

that's some high quality obtuseness

Yeah, it ignores (and, let’s be frank, willingly) that the parties to negotiation were Russian government officials, and that financing was to be provided by a sanctioned bank that was a catspaw for said government.

And, for the 1,374th time, if it was entirely innocent, why lie about it?
 
Paul just needs to go back to Kentucky and do what he does best. Be an eye doctor. Every one of these R's that have lost their spines these last two years need to go.
 
The Russian ambassador. A deputy prime minister. A pop star, a weightlifter, a lawyer, a Soviet army veteran with alleged intelligence ties.

Again and again and again, over the course of Donald Trump’s 18-month campaign for the presidency, Russian citizens made contact with his closest family and friends, as well as figures on the periphery of his orbit.

Some offered to help his campaign and his real estate business. Some offered dirt on his Democratic opponent. Repeatedly, Russian nationals suggested Trump should hold a peacemaking sit-down with Vladi*mir Putin — and offered to broker such a summit.

In all, Russians interacted with at least 14 Trump associates during the campaign and presidential transition, public records and interviews show.

As special counsel Robert S. Mueller III slowly unveils the evidence that he has gathered since his appointment in May 2017, he has not yet shown that any of the dozens of interactions between people in Trump’s orbit and Russians resulted in any specific coordination between his presidential campaign and Russia.

But the mounting number of communications that have been revealed occurred against the backdrop of “sustained efforts by the Russian government to interfere with the U.S. presidential election,” as Mueller’s prosecutors wrote in a court filing last week.

The special counsel’s filings have also revealed moments when Russia appeared to be taking cues from Trump. In July 2016, the then-GOP candidate said at a news conference, “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” referring to messages Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton had deleted from a private account. That day, the Russians made their first effort to break into servers used by Clinton’s personal office, according to court documents.

Two days after Trump was elected president, a top Kremlin official caused a stir by asserting that Trump’s associates were in contact with the Russian government before the election.

“I don’t say that all of them, but a whole array of them supported contacts with Russian representatives,” Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told the Interfax news agency on Nov. 10, 2016.

The claim was met with a hail of denials. Hope Hicks, then Trump’s top spokeswoman, responded, “It never happened. There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign.”

After Trump took office, in February 2017, he reiterated the denial. “No. Nobody that I know of,” the president told reporters when asked whether anyone who advised his campaign had contact with Russia. “I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”

It is now clear that wasn’t true.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...60ce2a8148f_story.html?utm_term=.eeb66e67c2d6
 
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Aiding and abetting defined as "to assist someone in committing or encourage someone to commit a crime."

I believe this the proper terminology for what happened. As opposed to a term like collusion which lacks legal precision.

Quid pro quo is also a good term to describe what happened.
 
As for the strenuous lies and false denials, they evidence consciousness of guilt and raise the possibility of a fully elaborated conspiracy, which is one step up from aiding and abetting.

We recently learned that Mueller is focusing on the late night phone calls between Trump and Stone during the campaign. They were quite numerous.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.99374aed2a4c

From the article above:

Mueller’s keen interest in their relationship was laid out in a draft court document revealed this week in which prosecutors drew a direct line between the two men — referring to Stone as someone understood to be in regular contact with senior Trump campaign officials, “including with then-candidate Donald J. Trump.”

The inclusion of the president by name in the draft filing rattled his legal team and indicated how closely the special counsel is scrutinizing what Trump may have learned from Stone about WikiLeaks’ release of emails that prosecutors say were hacked by Russian intelligence operatives.
 
I will also ask again, who got the 150K in "scholarship money" that Peter W Smith raised for "Russian students."
 
Do you guys think Individual-1 gets more ticked off that he's not referred to by his actual name so he's not actually getting credit for being Individual-1 in the media.
 
Do you guys think Individual-1 gets more ticked off that he's not referred to by his actual name so he's not actually getting credit for being Individual-1 in the media.

probably does not like have a number...but maybe he should get used to it
 
Anybody have any predictions on how this ends?

I predict Trump serves the full first term and serves no jail time

That's a safe bet.

I've said all along that I didn't think he'd serve a full term but I didn't think he'd win the election, either.
 
pretty clear SDNY believes they have strong case for 2 felony counts in election law violations re payments to McDougal and Daniel's

memo to Rand Paul: those 2 felony counts are not equivalent to the minor paperwork mistakes every campaign makes...nice try with the willful obtuseness
 
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