Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

thethe, for the fake busy person you are

you could listen to vice read the whole thing

it's interesting thus far and it's funny to think this is "lightly redacted"
 
sturg33 said:
Barr HAS released the redacted report.

How can you say with a straight face that the misleading media information lies in Trumps corner?

You've been lied to for 3 years. And that's just Russia
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What else are we being lied to about?
 
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57Brave said:
The DOJ bars the indictment of a sitting POTUS, and Mueller's report says he approached the obstruction inquiry under that rule. So despite Barr's soft framing, Mueller's decision not to bring obstruction charges wasn't because he didn't find obstruction

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/mueller-explains-why-made-no-decision-obstruction

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My reading tells me the DOJ guidelines reports congress decides
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In due time, Mueller will express his views on these and other matters in a public setting.
 
sturg33 said:
I do hope Congress tries to impeach.

The non leftists in the country are so sick of this story
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I think Pelosi has set the right standard, which is that there has to be a certain amount of Republican support for impeachment. Absent that, the better strategy for the Dems is simply to hold a continuous stream of hearings. Trump is going to get benghazied on a grand scale.
 
Harm to Ongoing Matter is trending I see but not as strongly as Sarah Sanders. Maybe "not founded on anything" will end up as her epitaph. Indeed, "not founded on anything other than lies" would be a fitting epitaph for this entire administration.
 
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Much of material concerning the meeting in the Seychelles between Prince and Dmitriev is redacted. Looks like Prince was interviewed under a proffer agreement.
 
It is interesting to note that technically Peter Smith was not part of the Trump campaign. He was a cutout. And he technically did not conspire with the Russians since he was indifferent as to the identity and allegiance of the counterparties offering hacked emails.
 
Attorney General William Barr walked offstage Thursday morning, abruptly ending his press conference on the Mueller report, immediately after a reporter asked why he decided to hold a press conference before releasing the report to Congress or the public.

The walk-off came after a series of tough questions about Barr’s rollout of the Mueller report. A CBS reporter asked if Barr felt his spin about Trump’s potentially obstructive behavior was “generous,” and another reporter asked why the special counsel was not present for a public briefing on his own report.

And when a HuffPost reporter asked whether it is improper for Barr to be “spinning the report before the public has a chance to read it,” the attorney general curtly muttered “no” before his handler ended the briefing and he walked off-stage.
 
If the only crime is obstructing an investigation of a fake crime, then that is not much to get upset about. And there doesn't appear to have much evidence even that happened.

But hey, yall are never going to move on so please continue to cling to whatever conspiracy you can.

Just beat the guy in 2020. It shouldn't be hard
 
sturg33 said:
If the only crime is obstructing an investigation of a fake crime, then that is not much to get upset about. And there doesn't appear to have much evidence even that happened.

But hey, yall are never going to move on so please continue to cling to whatever conspiracy you can.

Just beat the guy in 2020. It shouldn't be hard
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For a guy who enjoys calling out the media's lies, you are awfully protective of the biggest liar this country has ever seen.
 
and this from Daily Beast:

Robert Mueller’s team found evidence of other crimes outside the scope of the special counsel’s probe and made 14 criminal referrals—12 of which remain secret.

According to the special counsel’s redacted report, released Thursday, “During the course of the investigation, the Office periodically identified evidence of potential criminal activity that was outside the scope of the Special Counsel’s jurisdiction established by the Acting Attorney General. After consultation with the Office of the Deputy Attorney General, the Office referred that evidence to appropriate law enforcement authorities, principally other components of the Department of Justice and the FBI.”

The report lists all 14 of those criminal referrals, but 12 of them are fully redacted, citing “Harm to ongoing matter.” The two that have been made public are ones Mueller’s team referred to attorneys with the Southern District of New York: the prosecution of Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen for tax evasion and campaign-finance violations; and the prosecution of Gregory B. Craig, a former Obama lawyer with ties to Paul Manafort’s Ukraine report.
 
sturg33 said:
If the only crime is obstructing an investigation of a fake crime, then that is not much to get upset about. And there doesn't appear to have much evidence even that happened.

But hey, yall are never going to move on so please continue to cling to whatever conspiracy you can.

Just beat the guy in 2020. It shouldn't be hard
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The key word being "crime"
With your depth of constitutional knowledge I take for granted you are familiar with the phrase " high crimes and misdemeanors" ?

Be reminded two POTUS were in fact impeached over the " only crime is obstructing an investigation ... " you note.
Which to my mind qualifies as a "high crime".
Your definition ?

Be too reminded there have been 37 indictments handed down by Grand Juries .
The only thing that has let Trump off of the hook has been a compliant/... (R) Senate that allowed Barr to even get a guest pass into DOJ
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Actually it will be hard.
Again showing your utter ignorance of history
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Article I charged that Clinton[U] lied to the grand jury[/U] concerning:[21]

the nature and details of his relationship with Lewinsky
prior false statements he made in the Jones deposition
prior false statements he allowed his lawyer to make characterizing Lewinsky's affidavit
his attempts to tamper with witnesses

Article III charged Clinton with attempting to obstruct justice in the Jones case by:[22]

encouraging Lewinsky to file a false affidavit
encouraging Lewinsky to give false testimony if and when she was called to testify
concealing gifts he had given to Lewinsky that had been subpoenaed
attempting to secure a job for Lewinsky to influence her testimony
permitting his lawyer to make false statements characterizing Lewinsky's affidavit
attempting to tamper with the possible testimony of his secretary Betty Curie
making false and misleading statements to potential grand jury witnesses

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Article I alleged in part:

On June 17, 1972, and prior thereto, agents of the Committee for the Re-election of the President committed unlawful entry of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, District of Columbia, for the purpose of securing political intelligence. Subsequent thereto, Richard M. Nixon, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such illegal entry; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities.[98]

Article II alleged in part that Nixon:

repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposes of these agencies.[98]

Article III alleged in part that Nixon:

failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives on April 11, 1974, May 15, 1974, May 30, 1974, and June 24, 1974, and willfully disobeyed such subpoenas

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Trump has pretty much checked the boxes above with Article 3 (Nixon) still to be learned


"only crime is obstructing an investigation"
you're a hoot
 
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