Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

sturg33 said:
No they still believe every word.

Genuinely they thinks it's true
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I'm just racking my brain to try and come up with a reason how this is possible other than the obvious.

I mean seriously - How can anyone believe this anymore?
 
I have admitted multiple times that I as well as others here believed the Mueller investigation was looking into the financial history between Trump and Russia. Much of that was from Maddow and the media you cry about. We were wrong about that. Happy?
 
thethe said:
I'm just racking my brain to try and come up with a reason how this is possible other than the obvious.

I mean seriously - How can anyone believe this anymore?
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It might have something to do with Trump asking Russia to help his campaign on live national TV or that meeting between Trumps campaign manager and Russian Agent where he shared highly valuable internal polling data and then lied both about having the meeting in the first place and then once caught on that lie again lied about what was discussed in the meeting.
 
cajunrevenge said:
It might have something to do with Trump asking Russia to help his campaign on live national TV or that meeting between Trumps campaign manager and Russian Agent where he shared highly valuable internal polling data and then lied both about having the meeting in the first place and then once caught on that lie again lied about what was discussed in the meeting.
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Was this the meeting where Fusion GPS met with the "Russian" before and after?
 
cajunrevenge said:
I have admitted multiple times that I as well as others here believed the Mueller investigation was looking into the financial history between Trump and Russia. Much of that was from Maddow and the media you cry about. We were wrong about that. Happy?
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And whats in the financial history?

A collateralized loan which is done by all real estate moguls?

Trump just sold the rights to the DC hotel for a massive profit. Thats called being a great businessman.
 
thethe said:
And whats in the financial history?

A collateralized loan which is done by all real estate moguls?

Trump just sold the rights to the DC hotel for a massive profit. Thats called being a great businessman.
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I would like to know a lot more about Trumps loans with Deutsche Bank. Like, I wanna get all up in that ****. Why did they loan him 300 million in 2008 after he defaulted on a 45 million loan? I would like to know if Trump was inflating his assets to DB and if DB knew it and STILL loaned him the money. DB has been caught several times laundering money for Russia. Trump has received numerous loans that make no sense by DB. Maybe these two things are unrelated. Maybe they arent. I would like to find out.
 
thethe said:
I'm just racking my brain to try and come up with a reason how this is possible other than the obvious.

I mean seriously - How can anyone believe this anymore?
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Because some people in Trump’s orbit were found to have done the things they were claimed to have done? I think I’ve been pretty clear from the start that the Trump-Russia story has been a non-starter for me and very overblown, but the Mueller investigation did find some related crimes. Further, the prevailing narrative that Russia wanted Trump to win and took steps to help make it so has still remained true. Where I disagree with the Left is with the extent to which they think Trump and Russia worked together and whether it was as scandalous and uncommon as they made it out to be.
 
cajunrevenge said:
And you still cant find 1 illegal vote for Biden. Lol
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And just like when you said "I'll wait till there is 1 indictment" about Russia you'll just pivot to something else.

There has been so much found already but since you are being willfully obtuse comparing individual idiots voting for their mother to the election apparatus cheating there will be no hope for you.

Just stick around when its conclusively proven.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I would like to know a lot more about Trumps loans with Deutsche Bank. Like, I wanna get all up in that ****. Why did they loan him 300 million in 2008 after he defaulted on a 45 million loan? I would like to know if Trump was inflating his assets to DB and if DB knew it and STILL loaned him the money. DB has been caught several times laundering money for Russia. Trump has received numerous loans that make no sense by DB. Maybe these two things are unrelated. Maybe they arent. I would like to find out.
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Sure sure - Then when that comes up with nothing you'll pivot to something else.

"I'll wait for at least 1 indictment"
 
mqt said:
Because some people in Trump’s orbit were found to have done the things they were claimed to have done? I think I’ve been pretty clear from the start that the Trump-Russia story has been a non-starter for me and very overblown, but the Mueller investigation did find some related crimes. Further, the prevailing narrative that Russia wanted Trump to win and took steps to help make it so has still remained true. Where I disagree with the Left is with the extent to which they think Trump and Russia worked together and whether it was as scandalous and uncommon as they made it out to be.
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Should Hillary Clinton be serving jail time?
 
mqt said:
Because some people in Trump’s orbit were found to have done the things they were claimed to have done? I think I’ve been pretty clear from the start that the Trump-Russia story has been a non-starter for me and very overblown, but the Mueller investigation did find some related crimes. Further, the prevailing narrative that Russia wanted Trump to win and took steps to help make it so has still remained true. Where I disagree with the Left is with the extent to which they think Trump and Russia worked together and whether it was as scandalous and uncommon as they made it out to be.
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Trumps orbit?

You mean Manafort who was a career slimy guy who was then subsequently fired from the campaign?

Or how about Trump Jr who had a meeting with a Russian that met with Fusion GPS before and after? Yes, the same fusion GPS that facilitated the fake dossier.

What else you got? STone talking about public information on Wikileaks?

How about that there is zero proof that Russia even hacked the DNC?
 
thethe said:
Trumps orbit?

You mean Manafort who was a career slimy guy who was then subsequently fired from the campaign?

Or how about Trump Jr who had a meeting with a Russian that met with Fusion GPS before and after? Yes, the same fusion GPS that facilitated the fake dossier.

What else you got? STone talking about public information on Wikileaks?

How about that there is zero proof that Russia even hacked the DNC?
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Given that the more credible complaints were about the Trump Campaign rather than specifically Donald Trump, yes I would include the campaign manager as being part of that group.
 
mqt said:
Given that the more credible complaints were about the Trump Campaign rather than specifically Donald Trump, yes I would include the campaign manager as being part of that group.
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Yeah - Because we went from secret backdoor channels between Trump and Putin to......Polling data shared.

I guess we are on track.

Clown show. All around.
 
thethe said:
Sure sure - Then when that comes up with nothing you'll pivot to something else.

"I'll wait for at least 1 indictment"
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Oh ya got me. A Clinton lawyer and a Russian guy I have never heard of got indicted for lying to the FBI. Have you seen me defend them at all? I am not going to do what you do when Trump buddies get arrested and cry about how its so unfair and its all a coup against Dear Leader and the prosecutor is big mean stupid head and its all treason. Wahhhhhh. Few things I love more than politicians going to prison. You can assign me to "the left" all you want but I have no sides. I am just an observer. I mean, do you have any idea how much it would hurt my feelings if Hillary Clinton was arrested. I would be so devastated.
 
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