CyYoung31
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So, John Malone and Greg Maffei.
Saying good bye to Freddie
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So, John Malone and Greg Maffei.
NYCBrave
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Another issue is letting this linger over the entire season. It's going to be on Freddie's mind all season because reporters will continue to ask. How can it not become a distraction for him and the team?
Also I'm not buying that Freddie is going to move home to be closer to family, nor take the most money for the highest bidder. He has planted his roots in Georgia, and his wife is from South Florida. He's a family man, and I'm sure his wife will have just as big a say as he will.
nsacpi
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I thought Fredito should have been extented two off-seasons ago. But I have had doubts about the wisdom of extenting someone who is already past 30 just after he wins MVP. Then you have the Betts and Lindor deals and some of the other comparables.
I would try to sign him this off season. Let him go to free agency.
I also think the Acuna deal is out there as something the team needs to exercise some care about. Believe me, what the team signs Freddie to will have some impact on whether Acuna thinks he is being fairly paid. Long-term deal or not.
I would try to sign him this off season. Let him go to free agency.
I also think the Acuna deal is out there as something the team needs to exercise some care about. Believe me, what the team signs Freddie to will have some impact on whether Acuna thinks he is being fairly paid. Long-term deal or not.
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NYCBrave
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That Acuna deal could quickly become a gift and a curse, especially if he keeps producing at this level, and it gets to his head how unfair the deal is. Has there been recent history of an MLB player holding out and refusing to play due to a contract dispute??
That being said, I'm not sure the Freeman extension has any bearing. Acuna will be in line for a similar extension when he reaches Freeman's age.
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zitothebrave
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I mean would use his existing contract to extent him longer
Like try and lock him downuntil he's 34/35 and pay for it because it will make money.
Like try and lock him downuntil he's 34/35 and pay for it because it will make money.
UNCBlue012
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Freddie isn’t going anywhere lol
I’ve thought for a few years now that the Angels would be the likely landing spot for Freddie after this season. I love him, but I don’t want to be paying him for 4-5 years as he declines. If he wants a 2-3 contract, sure, but anything longer, let him go back West.
Southcack77
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Nope. NFL players holdout because 1. They're contracts aren't fully guaranteed and 2. They have much shorter careers, and put their bodies to much higher risk than MLB or NBA players.
MLB players don't accrue service time if they aren't on the active roster. So guys still under their teams initial control accomplish nothing by sitting out. They still are under team control for however long their service time lasts. For a guy on a guaranteed contract like Acuna, he has no leverage. The only way he can be a FA is if he is cut. Since he is "holding out" he wouldn't get paid anyways, so there would be no incentive for the Braves to cut him and be stuck with the rest of the contract.
And let's not act like Acuna is making peanuts here. He is still on track to earn more than 99% of all non-QBs in the NFL. It's a good deal if he maintains his production, but there's a good bit of risk from our side as well, guaranteeing him over 100 million over the next 7 years. Better players than him have flamed out early in their careers.
Southcack77
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Would you get more better value for Freddie in a deadline trade or just taking the comp pick?
I'm not sure I would favor giving him the Goldy contract for what figures not to be MVP seasons.
I'm not sure I would favor giving him the Goldy contract for what figures not to be MVP seasons.
In a hypothetical where the Braves have already determined to move on from Freddie you only deal him if the team is out of contention.
While in a vacuum you likely will get better prospect value in a trade versus what you would pick up as a comp pick. You have to factor in the value he would presently bring to the team if they looking to make a playoff run. And that will outweigh anything the team would get in a trade.
A similar situation is going to play out in Chicago. While there the determination has likely already been made that Bryant isn't coming back. He will be gone at the deadline, maybe to Atlanta if Riley doesn't progress, if the Cubs aren't contending.
Southcack77
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Right, you would definitely keep him if you were in the playoff picture. I assume it will be tough for the Braves to fall completely out of it, but I guess if the NL East leader runs away from the pack it is possible.
bravesfanforlife88
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Curious what moves AA would make IF he loses Freeman....
Braves FA class after the season ends includes, Freeman, TDA, Inciarte, Morton, Smyly. Martin
That is a lot of money coming off the books, but also, a ton of holes to fill
Braves FA class after the season ends includes, Freeman, TDA, Inciarte, Morton, Smyly. Martin
That is a lot of money coming off the books, but also, a ton of holes to fill
NYCBrave
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I have to agree. Especially if the Braves have an interest in resigning him. He probably would not take it well, since he has publicly stated many times he wants to remain here.
NYCBrave
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The difference between the Goldy contract and the upcoming Freeman extension is, the Braves will likely have the luxury of the DH for the entirety of Freeman's remaining years.
Just about the only way I could see Freeman dealt - even if the team falls out of contention - is if TWO things happen...
1.) Freddie continues to bark about the fact that he hasn't been extended AFTER he has already said he prefers not to talk about it during the season because of the "distraction" and...
2.) Someone offers something of SIGNIFICANTLY more value than that comp pick.
From AA's standpoint, he should be off the hook until the end of the season after Freddie's comments this week. He said he doesn't want to talk about it now, so AA's simply honoring his wishes. Freeman loses the high ground if he continues to talk to reporters about the situation AFTER he's already said he doesn't want to be bothered with it during the season. If he does, he's the one causing the distraction, not AA. If Freddie did keep bringing it up and it was causing a problem in the clubhouse - and someone offered a potential long-term 1B or 3B "answer" as a return, you could always look at converting someone like d'Arnaud/Posey/Soler for a year.
Not something anyone likes to think about, but if things got ugly and Moreno decided he was willing to hand out another long 1B contract with Pujols' money and Minasian came with Jared Walsh plus you'd have to at least think about it. With all that money coming off the books maybe you see if one of Story/Seager/Correa is interested in playing 3B in Atlanta for $25 million per for a while.
NYCBrave
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Nobody wants to think about it. But if we were to drop out of contention, we'd actually have a whole bunch of coveted assets to flip at the deadline. Freeman, Morton, D'Arnaud should all bring back good value from contending teams. Even Chris Martin.