School Choice II

On the other hand, presuming your stand is not based on skin color or economic status .
But religion --- which is even worse.
The First Amendment of the constitution protects me from funding your religion


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[
 
Claims fact

Gets called on it as incorrect

Says do your homework to “back it up”

Keeps on like nothing happened

This is the lefty playbook
 
Tapate50 said:
Claims fact

Gets called on it as incorrect

Says do your homework to “back it up”

Keeps on like nothing happened

This is the lefty playbook
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The bright side is his logic in the couple posts above would indicate he would no longer support forgiving student loans
 
57Brave said:
Do your homework school choice boy.
The people pushing School " Choice" don't do **** unless there is something in it for them

It's a scam but you don't mind playing the mark when they are selling white privilege
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^ just so everyone’s clear, this is what a scam looks like
 
57Brave said:
It's a scam but you don't mind playing the mark when they are selling white privilege
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https://katv.com/amp/news/nation-world/new-survey-shows-black-parents-want-school-choice-options-education-vouchers-charter-schools-open-enrollment

Morning Consult on behalf of EdChoice, a school choice advocacy group, recently surveyed about 1,300 Black parents of school-aged children.

When a basic definition of each policy was provided, 79% of Black parents supported vouchers, 74% supported charter schools, and 78% supported open enrollment.

Roughly three in four Black parents (78%) support education savings accounts, which are becoming increasingly popular across the country.


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Who’s gonna tell them?
 
" EdChoice, a school choice advocacy group "


Like I said you haven't the foggiest the people pushing (funding) this agenda.
Akin to thethe touting polls paid for by Trump showing Trump weighs 215 lbs.

of course they found what the client wanted them to find
Kinda dishonest when you stop to think about it --- like I also said, you are being played

you may honestly be all in for school vouchers, for all the right reasons
(and there are a few)
I don't know you
at the least though
keep your eyes open to who is moving the shells
 
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57Brave said:
and you expect me to fund it for you ?

at the expense of others
that don't whine ?
that is some class A undeserved priviledge
you are expecting there.
there is a system in place for people that cant afford private education

Perhaps hide/delete that post tout suite
not a good look
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1. Do you live in TN? If not, then it is not your concern.

2. It's already something I am paying for. Seems logical that I should be able to use it.
 
It isn’t the tax payers fault the schools aren’t performing.


In light of all the data and facts 57 has posted to support his position, I have zero choice but to change my stance on this issue
 
57Brave said:
Do your homework school choice boy.
The people pushing School " Choice" don't do **** unless there is something in it for them

It's a scam but you don't mind playing the mark when they are selling white privilege
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You keep saying that, yet you provide zero proof of it. The vast majority of evidence in states that currently have school choice programs shows that it improves education universally. That is for all students public and private alike, not just for the program participants. It reduces overcrowding, takes workloads off the teacher, improves the teachers ability to work 1 on 1 with their students, helps get their parents more involved, and even improves racial diversity. All while not defunding even 1 nickel from public education.
 
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Hey if anyone sees this white privilege they are selling can y'all point me to the website or street vendor? I'd like to buy some.
 
Gene Bryant
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Kentucky judge rules charter schools are not entitled

to public education money because they are not public schools

as outlined in state constitution.
 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-is-the-press-attacking-home-schoolers-washington-post-teachers-unions-covid-9290468a?mod=opinion_lead_pos6

The lockdowns and lockouts of 2020 dealt a reputational blow to the education blob—that quasipublic syndicate of teachers unions, government bureaucracies, brand-name credentialing institutions and their media allies whose mission is to keep taxpayer money flowing to public schools. Most of that money is linked to students, many of whom left during the plague year and haven’t returned. Now the crisis is over and the blob wants its monopoly back.

The pandemic scrambled Americans’ attitudes toward education. With entire families stuck at home, parents got a chance to examine in detail what their kids were doing all day. Many didn’t like what they saw. Wasted time, woke-infused curricula and poor instruction convinced these parents they could do better. They decided they liked the freedom and convenience of home schooling. It worked for them and for their kids. They kept at it after the lockdowns ended.

Somebody somewhere has decided this experiment in liberty has gone on long enough. An Oct. 31 piece in the Washington Post sounded the alarm about the stubborn popularity of “a largely unregulated practice once confined to the ideological fringe.” The education blob is a closed shop. Teachers and the unions that represent them are married to the idea that only properly trained professionals can handle a classroom. It’s a cult of expertise. Pedagogical science isn’t for amateurs, never mind that the idea of mass public education is no more than 200 years old. Also never mind that most credentialed teachers aren’t subject-matter experts.

Insufficient oversight is, for the blob, an argument ender. But in what arena has government regulation ever been a reliable guarantor of quality, service and safety? Public schools in communities across the country have failed—and are continuing to fail—to educate students. This happens despite well-funded, intrusive supervision by the blob. The whole point of home schooling is to get out from under that type of regulation.


 
Surely 57 is gonna post who is moving the shells any minute now so we can all gain this ultimate enlightenment for our kids sake. Surely he won't hold out this valuable info from us.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
 
https://nypost.com/2023/12/24/metro/nyc-charter-schools-lead-pack-on-state-exams/amp/

New York City charter school students outscored their public school peers on the state’s standardized reading and math exams for grades 3-8 last academic year, a new analysis reveals.

The gap was particularly glaring among black and Hispanic students, with those at charters scoring leaps beyond their counterparts in public schools, according to the study.

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Black charter school students outperformed their district counterparts by 19 percentage points — 59% vs. 40% — on the ELA and by 27 percentage points on the math exam, 61% vs. 34%.

Hispanic charter school kids outperformed their public school peers by 16 percentage points (55% vs. 39%) in English and by 25 percentage points (61% vs. 36%) in math.

About a third — 32% — of charter school kids with disabilities passed the ELA and 40% made the grade in math, compared to 22% and 24% of traditional school students with special needs.

The city now has 274 charter schools — privately managed and publicly funded– serving 142,500 students, or about 15% of those enrolled in public schools.

Many have a longer school day and school year, set their own curriculum and operate outside the powerful teachers’ union contract.



 
Tapate50 said:
NY public schools are just racist and charter are not ?

Is that gonna be 57s line now?
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I think it’s noteworthy how much better students with disabilities performed at the charters vs public schools. Since one of the arguments school choice skeptics make (based on what I don’t know) is that those types of students will be left behind if we have choice.
 
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